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Re: Toulouse : Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:28 am  
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Hardly a ringing endorsement for a SL bid, well we thought we had enough money to be in a competition but we were wrong, we got poop crowds and pulled out because we couldn't afford any more losses.


To be fair sounds like the perfect endorsement for a SL bid.
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Re: Toulouse : Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:10 pm  
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To be fair sounds like the perfect endorsement for a SL bid.


Why do you choose to deride their proposed entry into SL, is it pure jealousy or, do you have some structured reasoning that you would like to share.
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Re: Toulouse : Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:05 pm  
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Why do you choose to deride their proposed entry into SL, is it pure jealousy or, do you have some structured reasoning that you would like to share.


Not really sure what their is to be jealous of really. As a fan I want my team to be competing for trophies, that wont happen in SL for Fax and I doubt it would for Toulouse either. Im also quite miffed that people are basing a crowd for a game they wernt involved in as a basis for entry to SL.

To say they failed to even compete in their days in the championship would be an understatement and their crowds were not exactly anything to write home about. I honestly believe that both Fev and Fax both deserve a shot at SL and have worked hard on and off the field to get structures in place to try and make that happen but everyone knows deep down the goal posts would be moved to suit what ever agenda the RFL have at the time. Licensing was never going to work when too many of the top flight clubs are badly run and are failing but who knows what the answer is, dropping the salary cap hampers the small number of clubs that can sustain it while for others its a noose around their neck slowly choking the life out of their clubs.

God knows how the money will be split when the RFL runs with whatever plan it does but if it means lowering the amount of money each club receives from the tv deal then it wouldnt be a surprise to see more teams struggle to stay afloat. On that note it would be nice to imagine what progress 2 teams that already turn a profit in Fev and Fax could do with the extra £1M or so a year that they would receive if they were in SL. And yes I understand Fax have had that chance and were one of the teams struggling to stay afloat but I think we have a number of people at the club now who actually know how to run a business and would do all in their power to make us a success. I doubt the RFL will give them a chance though.
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Re: Toulouse : Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:31 pm  
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Not really sure what their is to be jealous of really. As a fan I want my team to be competing for trophies, that wont happen in SL for Fax and I doubt it would for Toulouse either. Im also quite miffed that people are basing a crowd for a game they wernt involved in as a basis for entry to SL.

To say they failed to even compete in their days in the championship would be an understatement and their crowds were not exactly anything to write home about. I honestly believe that both Fev and Fax both deserve a shot at SL and have worked hard on and off the field to get structures in place to try and make that happen but everyone knows deep down the goal posts would be moved to suit what ever agenda the RFL have at the time. Licensing was never going to work when too many of the top flight clubs are badly run and are failing but who knows what the answer is, dropping the salary cap hampers the small number of clubs that can sustain it while for others its a noose around their neck slowly choking the life out of their clubs.

God knows how the money will be split when the RFL runs with whatever plan it does but if it means lowering the amount of money each club receives from the tv deal then it wouldnt be a surprise to see more teams struggle to stay afloat. On that note it would be nice to imagine what progress 2 teams that already turn a profit in Fev and Fax could do with the extra £1M or so a year that they would receive if they were in SL. And yes I understand Fax have had that chance and were one of the teams struggling to stay afloat but I think we have a number of people at the club now who actually know how to run a business and would do all in their power to make us a success. I doubt the RFL will give them a chance though.


Why should the RFL give these pathetic little pit villages and wool and cotton mill towns from the 19th century a chance? Their glory days are long gone. Halifax has less than 100,000 residents. Featherstone has less than 20,000.

Toulouse is aerospace and hi-tech, it is the 21st century. Toulouse is a big city with over 1.2 million residents, a lot of money and a lot of rugby fans. It can make money. Toulouse is the future.

You and your Halifax and Featherstone are just Steptoe and Son. Sod off you sad old geezers!
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Re: Toulouse : Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:19 pm  
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Why should the RFL give these pathetic little pit villages and wool and cotton mill towns from the 19th century a chance? Their glory days are long gone. Halifax has less than 100,000 residents. Featherstone has less than 20,000.

Toulouse is aerospace and hi-tech, it is the 21st century. Toulouse is a big city with over 1.2 million residents, a lot of money and a lot of rugby fans. It can make money. Toulouse is the future.

You and your Halifax and Featherstone are just Steptoe and Son. Sod off you sad old geezers!


The thing is Jean, those pathetic little villages handed Toulouse their harrises for 3 years, so Hi Tec Aerospace or not , they are not the finished article and have a huge amount of work to do to make the grade, anybody who thinks otherwise is seriously deluded
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Re: Toulouse : Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:26 pm  
Rugby League in France just won't kick on. Rugby Union is the only Rugby game played in most parts. The 13 a side game is in a very small minority.
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Re: Toulouse : Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:29 pm  
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Rugby League in France just won't kick on. Rugby Union is the only Rugby game played in most parts. The 13 a side game is in a very small minority.


Just as it is in Britain, maybe its time we stopped bothering over here as well
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Re: Toulouse : Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:29 pm  
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Rugby League in France just won't kick on. Rugby Union is the only Rugby game played in most parts. The 13 a side game is in a very small minority.




its hardly attracting thousands from teams closest to Manchester either!
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Re: Toulouse : Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:36 pm  
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its hardly attracting thousands from teams closest to Manchester either!


You tell me why the people of Manchester should even bother with RL, The game is a forgone conclusion every year same teams in the top 7 only ever been 4 different winners since the league started 17 years ago why would they bother wasting money to watch their local team smashed from pilar to post every week? Maybe if their local team actually did something like were hoping they can in the next coming years you might see the people of Manchester take interest.
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Re: Toulouse : Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:38 pm  
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Rugby League in France just won't kick on. Rugby Union is the only Rugby game played in most parts. The 13 a side game is in a very small minority.


The irony.
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