: Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:23 pm  

Glenn Morangie wrote:

Shall I pass comment on birds from Hull?

Having moved to Leeds for uni, I will understand!

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:32 pm  

UllFC wrote:

didn't the Leigh fans vote/protest to keep the Centurions name though?

No

We were asked if we wanted another name , most said we wanted just Leigh RLFC as it used to be , if we did have to have a name then we might as well stick to what we have [ as bad as it is ] as it was relevant at the time as we took up the name on our 100 th birthday as a club and many juniors refered to it and used it when we did our school community work

Our knickname was always ' The Comics ' as we used to enter the pitch to the tune ' enter the Gladiators ' , which is better known as the tune that the clowns enter the circus ring

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:35 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Our knickname was always ' The Comics ' as we used to enter the pitch to the tune ' enter the Gladiators ' , which is better known as the tune that the clowns enter the circus ring

Leigh Clowns it is then

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:36 pm  

Wellsy13 wrote:

Leigh Clowns it is then

Always used to fit in well back in the early 80 ' when we were a top side

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:39 pm  

Glenn Morangie wrote:

Surely it should be York not Widnes Vikings or Leigh Centurions.

The relevance of that name was our 100 year history , so much more relevant that the wild Rhino's of the west yorkshire moors

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:41 pm  

Starbug wrote:

the wild Rhino's of the west yorkshire moors

The rutting ones, in the dogging car parks?

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:42 pm  

Starbug wrote:

The relevance of that name was our 100 year history , so much more relevant that the wild Rhino's of the west yorkshire moors

I agree, however I didn't mention what was relevant to Leeds merely that centurions or vikings would have been more relevant to York.

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:43 pm  

pyeman wrote:

Well i'm not sure, but i can tell you one thing, todd carney isnt one

neither is stuart fielden,matt orford etc

your point again??

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:50 pm  

Wellsy13 wrote:

I know my history, thank you very much. You have missed the point.

It's not a case of who had it first. When you say "Red Devils" in that area or in sport in the UK, who do people think of generally?

Any Manchester United supporter worth their salt knows that Salford RLFC were, and are, the original Red Devils.
There was even a documentary a while ago, where an American 'soccer fan' travelled to Manchester to learn more on the social, cultural and historical impact of the club. He asked the the bloke who was his 'teacher', who was basically a Stretford End season ticket holder from a council estate in Salford, where the name 'Red Devils' came from; the bloke took him down to the Willows and explained the signifance of the name.

So your point wasn't missed, it just holds no weight.

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:59 pm  

'Hitman' Norvern Soul wrote:

Any Manchester United supporter worth their salt knows that Salford RLFC were, and are, the original Red Devils.
There was even a documentary a while ago, where an American 'soccer fan' travelled to Manchester to learn more on the social, cultural and historical impact of the club. He asked the the bloke who was his 'teacher', who was basically a Stretford End season ticket holder from a council estate in Salford, where the name 'Red Devils' came from; the bloke took him down to the Willows and explained the signifance of the name.

So your point wasn't missed, it just holds no weight.

My point still has been missed. It'snot about who are the original Red Devils or not. You don't seem to be able to understand that. It's not about fans that are "worth their salt" either. There are very very few fans that know a lot about the history of the clubs they support. Clubs aren't trying to attract fans that are "worth their salt" because they don't need to. If they were worth their salt they would already be fans. It's about awareness for people that don't have a clue about RL or Salford. It's about attracting them to the club. And then it's about making them worth their salt.

My point is, by sharing the same nickname as a sporting club that is MUCH MUCH bigger (and that still doesn't descrive how big Man Utd are compared to Salford!). It doesn't matter who got it first, the fact is it is Red Devils means "Man Utd" to a hell of a lot more people in that area than it does "Salford", and trying to tell anyone "not worth their salt" that Salford are the original Red Devils won't make a jot of difference no matter how right it is.