Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:46 pm  

you think the recent shocking weather over the last 2 months has anything to do with it.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:54 pm  

McClennan wrote:

Worth considering that the recent FA Cup Quarter-Final replay came in at less than 7,000 crowd. This was the lowest attendance at this stage of the competition since 1970. Any change in attendances currently has to be considered in light of the economic situation. I think even the RU Cup had low attendances although I'd expect their sport to be more resistant to economic woes due to the wealth of their support base.

Nothing whatsoever to do with the economic situation. Please dont try and justify anything using Blackburn Rovers attendance figures! I could write for pages and pages why but I wont.

Putting it simply, the fans of that club have had the soul ripped out of what was once a very proud, family club. It has become a national laughing stock and despite fans wanting the best for the club, they were made out to be villains in the whole saga. It has taken some areas of the media a year to realise that it was never the fans fault what happened to their club, but poor ownership and marginalisation of the fans!

The crowds at that club have gone down from 25k to 12k in 18 months, they will only be going one way if things continue the same way as many fans feel their club has been lost!

Add together the fact that the original tie was played on the Sunday, tickets for the replay went on sale for the replay on Monday and the replay was on the Wednesday! 2 full days to sell tickets for the game!

As I say, using Blackburn Rovers to support any arguments at the moment is pointless as it is a extremely special case! I dont blame people on the outside just looking and drawing conclusions from it, but there very deep problems that wont be solved until the whole culture of the club is reversed.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:01 pm  

Salford V Huddersfield in 2013 = 2,788
Salford V Huddersfield in 2012 = 5,324
% decrease = -47.63%

the ironic thing about this is that there were far more people there yesterday than what there was last year

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:07 pm  

Pat Bateman wrote:

you think the recent shocking weather over the last 2 months has anything to do with it.

We had pretty poor wintry weather early doors last season too. In fact, Nigel Wood praised fans for turning up last year in atrocious conditions when he was bragging about how fantastic SL attendances were. On that basis, I am not inclined to believe the weather has been a major factor in SL attendances being over 11% down this season.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:09 pm  

meast wrote:

the ironic thing about this is that there were far more people there yesterday than what there was last year

I guess the Salford season ticket holders who didn't turn up last year (for whatever reasons) must have still been counted in the attendance.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:53 pm  

don't think many more turned up yesterday either.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:08 pm  

William Eve wrote:

Do you believe comparing attendances at cup games (which aren't included as part of the season ticket package in those other sports) with mainly season-ticketed regular round SL attendances is a valid comparison?

I wasn't using that as a comparison with SL attendances. It was just an example of an unusual crowd for what would normally have been a well-attended fixture.

William Eve wrote:

And how long has this economic situation been with us? Did it begin in 2013, hence why SL regular season attendances in 2013 are over 11% down on last year? You don't believe there are other reasons for the decline in SL attendances this season then?

The impacts of recession don't always manifest themselves quickly. Sometimes it takes a while. I'm not saying anything about the attendances other than they have to be considered in the light of the north of England taking a massive hit with this recession. RL fans are not the most cash rich of supporter bases so it's perfectly logical to assume that economics is having an impact on attendances. To suggest otherwise goes against economic and common sense.

jimlav wrote:

Nothing whatsoever to do with the economic situation. Please dont try and justify anything using Blackburn Rovers attendance figures!.

That's a fair comment but less than 7k for a chance to appear in a FA Cup semi, even with Blackburn's current situation, should generate more than 7k.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:27 pm  

McClennan wrote:

I wasn't using that as a comparison with SL attendances. It was just an example of an unusual crowd for what would normally have been a well-attended fixture.

You clearly were otherwise you wouldn't have made reference to it in the first place

McClennan wrote:

The impacts of recession don't always manifest themselves quickly. Sometimes it takes a while. I'm not saying anything about the attendances other than they have to be considered in the light of the north of England taking a massive hit with this recession. RL fans are not the most cash rich of supporter bases so it's perfectly logical to assume that economics is having an impact on attendances. To suggest otherwise goes against economic and common sense.

Where have I suggested otherwise? Can you point to anywhere on this thread or elsewhere where I've said or claimed that economics and the recession is not having any impact on SL attendances?

McClennan wrote:

That's a fair comment but less than 7k for a chance to appear in a FA Cup semi, even with Blackburn's current situation, should generate more than 7k.

It's a cup game in another sport where it's pay-on-the-gate or pay for an individual ticket. What are the equivalent SL play-off game attendances or Challenge Cup fixtures like where people pay-on-the-gate or have to pay for an individual ticket? And how do they compare to the attendances for regular season-ticketed SL games? I'll give you a clue... they are pisspoor comparatively speaking.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:47 pm  

Nigel Wood has come out and praised the quality of the 2013 season so far and pointed to some historically low winning margins.

So that's William's next assignment sorted out

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:27 pm  

William Eve wrote:

We had pretty poor wintry weather early doors last season too. In fact, Nigel Wood praised fans for turning up last year in atrocious conditions when he was bragging about how fantastic SL attendances were. On that basis, I am not inclined to believe the weather has been a major factor in SL attendances being over 11% down this season.

Come on, it was hardly this bad was it!

One or two weeks of poor weather at the start of the season tops.
I remember reading that on March 28th last year it was 22°C. I think the highest the wearher's been this month is about 8°C! It has been far colder for far longer than I can remember.