Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:40 pm  

WireWireWire wrote:

His efforts in defence on Lineham left a lot to be desired. Why be a Full Back when you can't tackle?

Ratchford can't tackle! Unfortunately it's the way of the modern fullback

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:54 pm  

Moe syslak wrote:

Ratchford can't tackle! Unfortunately it's the way of the modern fullback

What's your point? I'm not a massive fan of Ratchford either. Comes up with boneheaded plays and is nornally a one man band. Also half the time looks for bodies to dodge when he could just run forward. Case in point when he picked up that loose ball and was off down the field, side steps one and then instead of taking Barba on the outside he cuts in again and gets caught. He's good but he's also a liability more than some believe.

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:33 am  

Lebron James wrote:

Saints by 32

Regards

King James

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:39 am  

Roy Haggerty wrote:

Saints have a big problem though. They cannot win when there is any pressure or expectation on them. The only big game they've won in the last seven years was the 2014 Grand Final, and notably, nobody expected them to do so and they were rank outsiders. In literally every single big game for the last seven years where Saints were expected to win, they've lost. That's the worst record of choking in my rugby league watching history of 30 years.

And against 12 men for 75 minutes!

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:41 am  

Moe syslak wrote:

Ratchford can't tackle! Unfortunately it's the way of the modern fullback

Well he managed to bring down Makinson and Thompson one-on-one last night, when a miss in either case would have been a Saints try. Of course Makinson just needed to pass the ball, but he didn't.

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:47 am  

Roy Haggerty wrote:

Hard to see any result other than a Wigan win in the final. Unless Cas are going to pull an unexpected performance out of the bag tomorrow, Wigan should take that at their place.

And while Warrington were deserved winners tonight, it was hard to avoid the conclusion that they played to nearly their best, while Saints were suffering the same mediocre form which - as others have pointed out - has been ongoing now since mid-season. Wigan will offer a lot more in attack than Saints did, and their defence out wide is far better than Saints who carry a non-tackling scrum half and a non-tackling fullback.


Saints have a big problem though. They cannot win when there is any pressure or expectation on them. The only big game they've won in the last seven years was the 2014 Grand Final, and notably, nobody expected them to do so and they were rank outsiders. In literally every single big game for the last seven years where Saints were expected to win, they've lost. That's the worst record of choking in my rugby league watching history of 30 years.

You can’t be as myopic as you appear. There are no certainties in sport that’s just been proved. On the night Cas are imo a slightly better team than Wigan, yet you seem incapable of seeing past two very average Lancashire teams - pathetic really.

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:56 am  

This defeat has been on the cards all season and I predicted it with many others early doors.

All this media and Saints fans driven crap that they were leagues ahead of every other team was utter nonesense - anyone with a RL brain could see that - show ponies nothing more.

I saw Wakefield play them twice, beat them once and get robbed by the ref in the other game.

Wakefield are not a great team but a good one and had far to much resolve for Saints. Any team with a bit of spirit can beat teams like Saints - we did, Catalan did and now a fairly talented team in Warrington have.

Saints fans deserve all the ribbing they are going to get - biggest flops in years, at least Cas made it to the final last year and have recovered since.

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:24 am  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Saints fans learnt a profound lesson tonight, a profound lesson.

At least you waited till after full time to post this this time round. Unlike last years semi when you posted it after 78 minutes !

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:25 am  

Warrington has done everyone on this forum a favour #TheKingisdead

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:57 am  

vastman wrote:

This defeat has been on the cards all season and I predicted it with many others early doors.

All this media and Saints fans driven crap that they were leagues ahead of every other team was utter nonesense - anyone with a RL brain could see that - show ponies nothing more.

I saw Wakefield play them twice, beat them once and get robbed by the ref in the other game.

Wakefield are not a great team but a good one and had far to much resolve for Saints. Any team with a bit of spirit can beat teams like Saints - we did, Catalan did and now a fairly talented team in Warrington have.

Saints fans deserve all the ribbing they are going to get - biggest flops in years, at least Cas made it to the final last year and have recovered since.

Hell even Leeds beat them at their place with a weak bench and only lost by a point at home and we’ve been awful this season.

What Saints had was the better luck with injuries and were near their first choice 17 more than others barring Walmsley. Just like Cas last year and Hull in 2016, the league season has become who has the better luck with injuries.