Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:10 am  

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superra ... 6750421565 Scale down the page Koukash is on there along with other Race horse owners.

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superra ... 6750421565 Scale down the page Koukash is on there along with other Race horse owners.

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:16 am  

gutterfax wrote: http://www.forbes.com/search/?q=DR+marwan+koukash He does seem to court publicity and isn't shy of the camera, but I fail to see how he has gone from student-professor- 600 million? There are an awful lot of empty properties in the middle east...lovely office blocks, shopping malls etc that I am sure have a "book" value, but if they ain't selling, then the book value is meaningless. He was trumpeted as the owner of a global training company and horse race owner when he arrived, so the property angle seems to have come from nowhere....the global training company has telephone numbers in the UAE and St Helens...... .....sounds familiar Sorry my bad it was the 2011 times rich list, and before you go googling it, every millionaire doesn't wish to have there personal business posted in public, so it probably won't be on googltube.

gutterfax wrote: http://www.forbes.com/search/?q=DR+marwan+koukash He does seem to court publicity and isn't shy of the camera, but I fail to see how he has gone from student-professor- 600 million? There are an awful lot of empty properties in the middle east...lovely office blocks, shopping malls etc that I am sure have a "book" value, but if they ain't selling, then the book value is meaningless. He was trumpeted as the owner of a global training company and horse race owner when he arrived, so the property angle seems to have come from nowhere....the global training company has telephone numbers in the UAE and St Helens...... .....sounds familiar Sorry my bad it was the 2011 times rich list, and before you go googling it, every millionaire doesn't wish to have there personal business posted in public, so it probably won't be on googltube.

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:12 am  

I did find this via google: http://community.betfair.com/horse_raci ... comeHeader

I did find this via google: http://community.betfair.com/horse_raci ... comeHeader

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:28 am  

From what I know, and it all comes from followers of the turf, a person cannot have the large number of race horses he owns without the racing authorities checking his or her worth.
When he took over, many of us began to dig to find out where he came from. We found out very little but most reds I have talked to went along with the above argument.
I'd rather have the good doctor in RL than the owner of Cardiff or Hull City.

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:41 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

I've no reason to doubt he is a very rich man. He seems to make very wise investments.

I know we are looking at the cash he has splashed in terms of players, but do we know how much he bought the club for????

If he got the club cheap because they were on the edge, then in actual effect he has had to spend very little of what ever fortune he has to buy in some players.

Whilst I'm sure he will say what ever is necessary to get Salford press ( any publicity for the club is almost good publicity.) whether he believes what he says is an entire other matter.

You put out the story you want out there. Trying to hook Tomkins and SBW, whilst if he could have got them I'm sure he would have taken them. The simple profile lifting that goes with such a bid is what really benefits Salford.

He needs to keep Salford in the headlines as it's basically free marketing. The press do all the work for nothing. Again his outburst a few days ago about season tickets the press jump on it as he raised the talk about him losing patience and leaving. But then a few days later he is talking about wanting more control over SL as a chairman. Both articles reflect counter points of getting fed up with something and wanting to become more involved.

But the one consistent outcome was headlines and coverage.

He knows he needs to raise the profile of the club to get more people through the doors and whilst no balls are being kicked the easiest way is for him to make a fuss. Whether he means any of it only he will know.

Other clubs higher up the league have already secured a large fan base to help bank roll their clubs, those without that support have to find ways to pull them in. Marketing and a high public profile is one way. It can even attract people just to see what he will do next.

If you look at other teams and say who is the biggest name at each club most clubs would be players or maybe one or two coaches. But the biggest name at Salford is the owner until a player starts to make the headlines for them.

As for season ticket sales they are 3 times ahead of where they where last year, but to get big numbers in people are going to need to see on field improvements, not just some decent names on paper.

Well said, sir, well said. It's all about raising the club's profile. The last time Salford warranted multi-page topics on the VT (and 6 pages of hand-wringing and impotent rage on the Warrington forum), the internet was still paper-based. Obviously, it's working.

Despite what some on here would like to believe, we don't overestimate the strength of our squad, and know we're not going to be overnight successes. But if Marwan went to the press and said that, it would hardly get people flocking to the gates would it? "Roll up, roll up! Come and see us build slowly in a quiet, sustainable manner, just like Simon Moran supposedly did!" is hardly going to draw the crowds in.

As for his wealth, it was reported in one of the Aussie newspapers that he was worth some number of millions or billions of Aussie dollars (can't remember), but it was an amount that converted to somewhere in the region of £500 million. I doubt any of us know how true this is, but I guess it's the best estimate we have at the moment.

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:22 am  

Red John wrote:

. But if Marwan went to the press and said that, it would hardly get people flocking to the gates would it?

Didn't I see something online to the effect he was not happy with season ticket sales. How many have been sold as a matter of interest?

Is there a limit to the number of RL clubs / football clubs one person can "own"? He seems to own Salford, has interest in Swinton, wants / wanted to buy Oldham Athletic and the RL club, interested in Leeds United, etc - all according to reports on the internet. Are there more?

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:44 am  

Dally wrote:

Didn't I see something online to the effect he was not happy with season ticket sales. How many have been sold as a matter of interest?

Is there a limit to the number of RL clubs / football clubs one person can "own"? He seems to own Salford, has interest in Swinton, wants / wanted to buy Oldham Athletic and the RL club, interested in Leeds United, etc - all according to reports on the internet. Are there more?

Reportedly 2500 season tickets sold so far. Given that the club was a complete basket case last season and is an unknown quantity this season, I'd say that was a pretty fair return, and will almost certainly be the greatest number of season tickets sold for many a year (the club used to keep the figure secret, possibly out of embarrassment). Whether he's genuinely disappointed or just trying to drum up a bit more publicity, we'll never know.

He does seem to be keen to build a sporting empire. The interest in Leeds United is a new one on me, and it seems the Oldham thing was just a passing thought. The Swinton deal looks more likely, and I think he has a meeting with the fans today.

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:00 am  

"Many a year"

That's bad England you need to gone back to school

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:20 pm  

Marwan Koukash is not the only person capable of generating publicity - Phil Clarke has managed to initiate an 8-page discussion on here with just one preposterous statement. Maybe they're working together.

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:52 pm  

Dally wrote: Phil Clarke thinks so: http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/ ... 31,00.html I suppose he must get something right sometime. Just don't think this is the time

Dally wrote: Phil Clarke thinks so: http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/ ... 31,00.html I suppose he must get something right sometime. Just don't think this is the time