Exactly. In isolation, there is nothing wrong with the RFL's "attendance is up" PR.
Well glad to see some people recognise that.
RLBandit wrote:
Likewise, there is nothing wrong with the what the poster is doing. In fact he's doing a great job.
Not really, he's offering no suggestions or asking any questions as to why an attendance is down. He's already decided in his mind that the people who didn't go this year were absent because they 'think the regular season has become meaningless', just because he hopes that is the reason.
RLBandit wrote:
This is a fans forum - we don't really need the RFL's figures to encourage us to go to games ( that PR is intended for others).
No we don't but neither do we need 'fans' going around talking the game down simply because they as individuals don't get any joy out of it. And yes it might 'only' be a fans forum, but if you hear your fellow 'fans' saying how rubbish it all is repeatedly then it will stick in some people's heads next time they watch a game and see something poor.
RLBandit wrote:
Here , as fans, I think its good to discuss the truth about attendances, even if, as I have agreed, its too early to draw conclusions about anything. I find any post that highlights a problem or an issue (regardless of whether I agree with it) hugely more interesting than "isn't it all great".
] But we generally have more 'bad' threads than 'good' threads, which I might also point out are hardly ever ''isn't it ALL great'' merely highlighting one thing that was good. In the 'bad' ones, it seems one bad thing leads to doomsday style ''the sport will be dead in 5 years'' type hysteria. We also have to put up with 'NRL does it better' threads quite often and on a couple of threads this week everytime Mr Eve has promoted a bad attendance stat about SL i've been able to show a worst one for the 'Almighty' NRL to put this 'problem' he's continuing to hint at in a more realistic light.
RLBandit wrote:
In contrast to people that don't understand us glass-half-empty folk, I don't understand why people get so wound up about - on a discussion forum - people being critical of the RFL.
I understand them, I simply don't like them. Why? Because really, deep down, they offer absolutely ZERO.......yes sorry to bust the bubble but it is ZERO! Then can lie to themselves in their self-important world that they do, but the true is they don't. That's not to say criticism is bad and unwanted, criticism is vital actually, but I prefer my criticism to be constructive and regardless of what some will say I reckon that at least 80% of the criticism we read on here isn't constructive, it's just bitter people being bitter people.
RLBandit wrote:
Some of you think they're competent. I think you're mad, but hey, keep saying it, its all good.
Funny thing is, you don't really read people saying that though. High praise of the RFL and Nigel Wood on here is as rare as a hen's tooth so this idea that you 'glass half empty' folk have that anybody who says anything positive about RL must be some huge Nigel Wood fan is just an dreamt up idea in your heads.
I see a huge amount of interesting suggestions in the critical posts on these boards. Many, probably most, no doubt have flaws and wouldn't work, but they offer more than zero.
Maybe 'get rid of Nigel Wood' doesn't sound constructive - probably because I don't suggest a replacement. But since I've no idea who'd apply I can't. But, that doesn't stop me from recognizing that the current incumbent is not up to the job and believing that, at the salary on offer, making a change is a "gamble" ( though hardly much of one) worth taking, and that we should and would find a better replacement. You are probably right in that its unfair to never give praise to any of his minor acheivements, but I believe that he's so strategically incompetent, that I have no interest in finding excuses for him, in occasionally doing the minimum we expect anyway. The day he's gone, I promise to STFU for 2 years.
This is Nigel Wood's first full season in the top job. The issues in the game are, sadly, the same issues that were apparent 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago and they have, if anything being lessened by the big improvements over the last 12 or so years.
Im not making excuses for him, there are obviously things that can be done better, but there is a clear difference between thinking something can be changed or improved and deciding someone shouldnt be in a job and going out and finding evidence which backs that up and ignoring evidence against it.
We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.
Superstition dictates that I only enjoy a game if the number of spectators is an even number. I don't know if I enjoyed Wigan v Wire yet because someone came in at half time and it hasn't been decided whether or not he counts.
Superstition dictates that I only enjoy a game if the number of spectators is an even number. I don't know if I enjoyed Wigan v Wire yet because someone came in at half time and it hasn't been decided whether or not he counts.
obviously you enjoyed the first half but not the second
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