Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:40 am  

Eastbourne Warrior wrote:

This

Shaun McRae, un-biased australian who has no links with either Wigan or Leeds called it a knock on in the commentry. He knows a lot more about the game than any poster on here.

How you doing Shaun mate? Got another job lined up yet?

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:49 am  

i thought it was a knock on. close call but some you get some you don't.

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:43 pm  

Raheem Morris wrote:

I'm a Leeds fan. It was a 50/50 call IMO as the ball was on the floor for 1 frame. In HD terms that's 1/26th of a second. I bed if they went to the VR for all grubber kicks 50% would show separation. It was also obvious that McGuire was going for the kick. That said, I have no problems with the result. The 8 minute period of Wigan dominance after the break won them the game and I thought Finch was a well deserved man of the match. If we play like that though for the next 2 months we will be in with a shout.

Nothing 50/50 about it , it was a knock on

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:47 pm  

Clearly he was attempting a drop goal, from two meters of the try line out towards the left touchline. because thats not an impossible angle at all KNOCK ON.

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:51 pm  

vikingsmurf wrote:

Clearly he was attempting a drop goal, from two meters of the try line out towards the left touchline. because thats not an impossible angle at all KNOCK ON.

But that's the point , it doesn't matter what he or anybody else thinks he was attempting , he dropped the ball , and that is a knock on

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:03 pm  

exactly. hence my sarcasm regarding the 'drop goal attempt' defence

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:01 pm  

Larry Billey wrote:

You are kidding ..???

A half-volley kick is called skill...check out Andrew Johns, Terry Lamb, Andy Gregory, Roger Millward etc etc..many great players have had it in their armoury...

A half volley kick is a skill, well done. And it takes considerably more skill to do and control it than a kick straight from the boot. So what is the bloody point when it is quicker and easier to go straight from the boot? Answer is that there is no point, and no player intentionally drops the ball before kicking it unless it's for a goal or a restart.

As for the comment a poster made about 50% of tributes probably hit the floor first, that is absolute rubbish of the highest order and the poster clearly doesn't watch RL very often or closely.

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:07 pm  

He didn't drop kick it, he dropped it and kicked it.

Correct decision by Stevie G!

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:53 pm  

justarugbyfan wrote:

He didn't drop kick it, he dropped it and kicked it.

Correct decision by Stevie G!

If you believe that he dropped it inadvertently and then kicked it then I agree it's a knock on because he didn't kick it before it hit the ground, as required by the rules in those circumstances.

My view was that he dropped it deliberately with an intent to kick it and then executed a legal drop kick as described by the laws of the game. Whether he improvised that drop kick as opposed to a punt because his timing was disrupted by the tackler is an irrelevance.

The question asked by Alibert of Ganson was the wrong one - he should have asked if the ball was knocked on, not whether it had hit the ground before being kicked.

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:57 pm  

Steve Fox wrote:

If you believe that he dropped it inadvertently and then kicked it then I agree it's a knock on because he didn't kick it before it hit the ground, as required by the rules in those circumstances.

My view was that he dropped it deliberately with an intent to kick it and then executed a legal drop kick as described by the laws of the game. Whether he improvised that drop kick as opposed to a punt because his timing was disrupted by the tackler is an irrelevance.

The question asked by Alibert of Ganson was the wrong one - he should have asked if the ball was knocked on, not whether it had hit the ground before being kicked.

Your view is total bollox , he knocked on , it doesn't matter what you assume he was intending to do

He knocked on