Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:39 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

I am in no way supporting young billy in his efforts here, but the weather, whilst terrible, didn't seem to stop the rahs turning out this weekend.....11,385 was their average over 6 games this weekend, over 60% better than the 7,036 that averaged out over 6 SL games this weekend.

As I say, I am not jumping on billy's bandwagon here, but I believe that might be close to the lowest weekends average since SL began.....and weather or not, that's a worry.

In fairness Gutters those games, whilst cold, were not played in snow blizzards. I do believe there was sleet at the Wasps and Irish games, though. Of course there's no defending the Catalans (where have their missing 2000 gone?) or London crowds.

HKR is not a huge concern. Can't have been a big draw for their fans to venture out in zero degrees for a TV game against Cas. Saints, Wire and Wigan (whilst the blizzards didn't strike on Saturday, the Wigan area was like the North Pole) crowds were completely obliterated by the weather - as we will see looking back at the end of the year , these crowds were anomalies.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:53 pm  

Nope it's time to accept that William is right and that the sport of RL in England is on the downward spiral to extinction in a few years.....and then when historians look back at the sport then they can say William spotted it first and for the first and only time in his life he'll finally become relevant......which is really what his 'agenda' is about....getting noticed for once, because it doesn't happen in his life away from the keyboard.

Oh and his numbers he's just produced are WRONG AGAIN but what's the point of correcting him and pointing it out when his followers will cry at you for getting things right and call you 'pedantic'.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:56 pm  

RLBandit wrote:

. Are you now saying that it's good that Leeds attendance is falling because it makes them more profitable? .

No clearly not. If you can’t understand just ask an adult to help you.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:01 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Explain the extra costs associated with opening Headingley to stage a match with a 16,000 attendance , compared to a 13,000 attendance ?

Well there would be additional stewarding needed, it may involve opening parts of a stadium which wouldn’t otherwise be opened. Plus the cost of going out and actually attracting these extra people.

Im sure if an extra couple of thousand people turned up with no extra effort then yes, clearly they would have made more money, but that wasn’t an option was it. It has been proven that attendances don’t automatically correlate to profitability, why you would think different I don’t know.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:16 pm  

First Up....poor old Bradford. According to Wiki they've got a 24hr turn around http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Super_League_season_results#Round_9 Last years "EASTER" corresponding fixtures Averaged 12,636 Last years actual corresponding fixtures Averaged 11,080 Easter 2011 averaged 12,097 For the Printer, these figures may be slightly out as I sourced them from a mixture of wiki (see above) and the RL Project website..... Anyway Billy.....BEFORE the weekends festivities commence, what would be, in your opinion an acceptable average attendance?

First Up....poor old Bradford. According to Wiki they've got a 24hr turn around http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Super_League_season_results#Round_9 Last years "EASTER" corresponding fixtures Averaged 12,636 Last years actual corresponding fixtures Averaged 11,080 Easter 2011 averaged 12,097 For the Printer, these figures may be slightly out as I sourced them from a mixture of wiki (see above) and the RL Project website..... Anyway Billy.....BEFORE the weekends festivities commence, what would be, in your opinion an acceptable average attendance?

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:24 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

Well there would be additional stewarding needed, it may involve opening parts of a stadium which wouldn’t otherwise be opened. Plus the cost of going out and actually attracting these extra people.

Im sure if an extra couple of thousand people turned up with no extra effort then yes, clearly they would have made more money,

So is Headingly all ticket entrance? , is there any pay on the gate?

If it is all ticket , do they sell tickets right up to kick off ?

So you now admit, more fans turning up for a game does increase income

You really are strange sometimes

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:44 pm  

Starbug wrote:

You really are strange sometimes

sometimes

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:57 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

Well there would be additional stewarding needed, it may involve opening parts of a stadium which wouldn’t otherwise be opened. Plus the cost of going out and actually attracting these extra people.

Im sure if an extra couple of thousand people turned up with no extra effort then yes, clearly they would have made more money, but that wasn’t an option was it. It has been proven that attendances don’t automatically correlate to profitability, why you would think different I don’t know.

Let me make this simple for even you to understand. There is a positive relationship between higher attendances and profit/loss *when you correct for unrelated items*. For example, what the club happened to spend that year ( on anything, a new stand, bank interest, a payoff for redundacies, a new pitch, whatever - not to mention whatever the sponsorship happened to be that year) are all factors that determine the P &L in that particular year. To say "attendance doesn't track profit" on a year by year basis, might be technically true but only in the idiotic sense of failing to separate variables. You really are an absolute @&£%wit if you believe that higher attendances and profit are unrelated.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:06 pm  

Starbug wrote:

So is Headingly all ticket entrance? , is there any pay on the gate?

If it is all ticket , do they sell tickets right up to kick off ?

So you now admit, more fans turning up for a game does increase income

You really are strange sometimes

income and profitability are not the same. As we can quite clearly see.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:10 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

income and profitability are not the same. As we can quite clearly see.

For once in your miserable pathetic life, just answer the questions