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Willzay wrote:
Comparing Makinson to Johnstone is daft anyway. Makinson has four years experience on Johnstone, who missed the large part of last season due to a horrific ACL injury. Yet out of the two who has the greater try to game ratio?


At least Thomas Makinson is a Thomas.
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JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
Ryan Hall probably has two more years left as England winger. He will be 34 by the time of the final of the next World Cup.

There are are two Thomases making names for themselves in Super League at the moment.

Which one will be on the wing for England in the next World Cup?

Thomas Johnstone or Thomas Lineham?
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Comparing Makinson to Johnstone is daft anyway. Makinson has four years experience on Johnstone, who missed the large part of last season due to a horrific ACL injury. Yet out of the two who has the greater try to game ratio?


They play in the same position and Makinson has broke his leg and had an ACL injury so that’s a pile of rubbish and you clearly don’t know what you’re on about.
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wrencat1873 wrote:
Have you been drinking :DRUNK:

Tey watching Johnstones highlight reel on a certain video sharing site, he can fly.
You say Makinson lacks speed, the one attribute that cannot be taught.
Btw, I'm not knocking Makinson, he's a decent player but, regarding Johnstone, you need help. :SUBMISSION:


Have done and Makinsons is more impressive. I’m not saying Johnstone is bad but he’s not as good as Makinson and he’s nowhere near as good as some people like to make out. He got exposed against Salford the other week, I’d hate to see him up against top players.
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I apologise to readers for initially limiting the Thomas candidates for replacing Ryan Hall to Thomas Lineham and Thomas Johnstone.

Obviously there are also two other distinguished English Thomases playing on the wing: Thomas Makinson and Thomas Marshall will also have to be considered as replacements for Ryan Hall.
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JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
I apologise to readers for initially limiting the Thomas candidates for replacing Ryan Hall to Thomas Lineham and Thomas Johnstone.

Obviously there are also two other distinguished English Thomases playing on the wing: Thomas Makinson and Thomas Marshall will also have to be considered as replacements for Ryan Hall.


Who is Thomas Marshall ? And who does he play for?
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AS108 wrote:
Have done and Makinsons is more impressive. I’m not saying Johnstone is bad but he’s not as good as Makinson and he’s nowhere near as good as some people like to make out. He got exposed against Salford the other week, I’d hate to see him up against top players.

Nah he's never done the goods against top players, like say the two current England wingers. :LOL:

On your other point before about not using scoring stats, yes I know teams may play more one way or the other, or even have a different style but come on Makinson hasn't had a decent season since 2015 and no matter which way a team plays, 15 tries in 56 games speaks volumes. Especially about a winger from Saints who are usually near the top of the table.

As for the only thing Johnstone has on Makinson is speed, yeah that and he's stronger, bigger, better step off both feet, makes more meters bringing the ball out of his own 20-meter line after a kick and contrary to what you and fake Frenchman says has a good defense.

He got exposed against Salford hey, you cling to that one mistake as much as you can fella, it's not as if Makinson and even better players than both haven't made mistakes before and far worse ones. :DOH:

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They play in the same position and Makinson has broke his leg and had an ACL injury so that’s a pile of rubbish and you clearly don’t know what you’re on about.

Yes, Makinson has 4 years more experience on him and is 4 years older, playing around 110 more games. So are you saying that you don't get more experienced and therefore become a better player the more games you play and also a player generally hits his peak form from around his mid 20's? So how is he wrong?

it's like if pundits and fans heap praise on Johnstone, which includes the current England Coach, some fans of other teams have to go completely the other way about him. I wouldn't mind if myself or others had ripped into Makinson either, I said he's a good SL winger, as have others. But imo his form his way down on that of 2014/15 say. I know the lad's been unlucky with injuries. But ateotd we're comparing players as they are now, not what they were.

It's not as if anyone's saying Johnstone's the absolute finished article. Is there any player in SL that can't improve areas of their game. Plus no one's said he's the only winger around certain to play for England/GB in the future, but to come out with the things you have, you're either lacking in RL knowledge and wuming.

Anyway at least one of the better posters from Wigan spotted what you were about.
Clearly he’s on the wind up (about Johnstone) whereas myself and others who’ve mentioned potential wing options haven’t been.
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Who is Thomas Marshall ? And who does he play for?


Sorry, I was confusing two Wigan wingers -- Thomas Davies and Liam Marshall. The correct answer is Thomas Davies.

Thomas Marshall is a rugby union player for Gloucester, who also plays on the wing at times.
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I apologise to readers for initially limiting the Thomas candidates for replacing Ryan Hall to Thomas Lineham and Thomas Johnstone.

Obviously there are also two other distinguished English Thomases playing on the wing: Thomas Makinson (St. Helens) and Thomas Davies (Wigan) will also have to be considered as replacements for Ryan Hall.
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Dom Manfredi when he was fit the other year is the most exciting and good quality young winger I’ve ever seen.

It’ll be interesting when he comes back how good he remains to be, he’s had a hell of a long time out.
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