Re: What is the RFL doing to attract the affluent classes? : Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:51 am  

JB Down Under wrote:

Australia has finally woken up to how sht RU is, its only a matter of time till the rest of the world follow us!

Yeah.......coz where Australia leads, the world follows!

Re: What is the RFL doing to attract the affluent classes? : Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:59 am  

indeed it has in so many ways and cases. Google Australian inventions to see just how much.

Australia is the first country to show just how inferior RU is to RL and the public have awoken to this fact and abandoned the kick and clap game in droves. It will soon be totally decimated, they've cut salaries, been relegated to Pay TV and are realising they can't even sustain 5 professional teams in the whole country. NRL is developing the blue print for others to follow.

Re: What is the RFL doing to attract the affluent classes? : Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:41 am  

Worzel wrote:

Leicester Tigers crowds wee all over most SL crowds chump. Wash your flat cap.

couldn't be any further from the truth.

Re: What is the RFL doing to attract the affluent classes? : Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:43 am  

William Eve wrote:

Home attendance averages last completed season (SL 2013 & Aviva Premiership 2012-13)
1. Leicester Tigers - 256,687/11 = 23,335
2. Harlequins - 219,631/11 = 19,966
3. Saracens - 200,871/11 = 18,261
4. Leeds Rhinos - 197,556/13 = 15,197
5. Wigan - 189,084/13 = 14,545
6. Gloucester - 154,404/11 = 14,037
7. Northampton - 140,414/11 = 12,765
8. London Wasps - 129,644/11 = 11,786
9. Hull FC - 151,843/13 = 11,680
10. Bath - 126,681/11 = 11,516
11. St Helens - 147,483/13 = 11,345
12. Warrington - 138,232/13 = 10,633
13. London Irish - 104,181/11 = 9,471
14. Worcester - 102,370/11 = 9,306
15. Bradford Bulls - 111,320/13 = 8,563
16. Catalans - 108,719/13 = 8,363
17. Exeter - 91,608/11 = 8,328
18. Wakefield - 103,635/13 = 7,972
19. Hull KR - 97,430/13 = 7,495
20. Sale - 80,201/11 = 7,291
21. Huddersfield - 82,790/13 = 6,368
22. Castleford - 81,979/13 = 6,306
23. Widnes - 78,191/13 = 6,015
24. London Welsh - 55,990/11 = 5,090
25. Salford - 40,622/13 = 3,125
26. London Broncos - 28,775/13 = 2,213

Super League Total & Average (2013) = 1,557,659/182 = 8,559
Aviva Premiership Total & Average (2012-13) = 1,662,682/132 = 12,596

yes now take out the event day attendances and it will drop by at least 3k. Also leciester tigers ground only holds 24k and there is no way they have sell outs of game. Like i said inflated figures for what ever reason.

Re: What is the RFL doing to attract the affluent classes? : Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:44 am  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

Re an earlier point about introducing RL into schools (especially here in the South) and setting up leagues. This was done a few years ago by Shane Rampling the player/coach of St.Albans Centurions (now coaching back in Australia)
He along with others really helped introduced RL to the Hatfield/St.Albans area which had previously being dominated by onion and with the help of the club have an established juniors section as well as the schools participating regularly.
Same thing with Hemel also. Medway Dragons are a superb example of what can be achieved in a relatively short space of time, but without further support nor a higher echelon club there is often a drop off or no further progress..vicious circle really
The Southern regions do have a taste for Rl, it just needs constant backing by the RFL in a way that makes sense..not their strong point sadly

We had the St.Albans cents minis along with the Verulamium schoolboys leading out the England & NZ teams at wembley , organised by Gary Tetlow (co-founder of St.Albans cents) he was the leading force behind the 800 tickets sales for the RLWC just from the club alone including many whom had never gone to a game of rugby..period

Thank you for proving a point that it can be done just needs the correct amount of backing.

Re: What is the RFL doing to attract the affluent classes? : Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:35 am  

Why people class human beings is beyond me but hey prejudice, stereotyping and discrimination comes in all forms.
The "affluent classes" as I would define them are probably those born in the late 40's and during the 50's.
It would appear, according to experts on these subjects, that there is more disposable income available to them, ignoring all the hoo-hah regarding state pensions.
The challenge is to get them to be more involved whilst realising that you need to keep the younger element interested as well.
Time for the clubs , RFL and SL to look at what they are doing and need to do regarding the promotion and marketing of the game as a whole.
I will start and say the RFL website needs a total overhaul with first thing needing to change is the awful drab colour scheme.

Re: What is the RFL doing to attract the affluent classes? : Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:46 pm  

dubairl wrote:

yes now take out the event day attendances and it will drop by at least 3k.

You are wrong again but that should be of no surprise to anyone. Excluding the "event" attendances, the average drops by just over 1k (or 1,150 to be exact). Without the event attendances, the Arriva Premiership average is still almost 34% higher than Super League.

Super League Total & Average (2013) = 1,557,659/182 = 8,559
Aviva Premiership Total & Average (2012-13) = 1,662,682/132 = 12,596
Less Event Day Attendances (2012-13) = 186,165 from 3 events
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Aviva Premiership Total & Average (2012-13) = 1,476,517/129 = 11,446
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dubairl wrote:

Also leciester tigers ground only holds 24k and there is no way they have sell outs of game. Like i said inflated figures for what ever reason.

Check out Sky Sports 2 right now. Another Leicester home game (this time a pool game against Ulster in the Heineken Cup). Guess what? The ground is chocka full.

Re: What is the RFL doing to attract the affluent classes? : Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:52 pm  

William Eve wrote:

You are wrong again but that should be of no surprise to anyone. Excluding the "event" attendances, the average drops by just over 1k (or 1,150 to be exact). Without the event attendances, the Arriva Premiership average is still almost 34% higher than Super League.

Super League Total & Average (2013) = 1,557,659/182 = 8,559
Aviva Premiership Total & Average (2012-13) = 1,662,682/132 = 12,596
Less Event Day Attendances (2012-13) = 186,165 from 3 events
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Aviva Premiership Total & Average (2012-13) = 1,476,517/129 = 11,446
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Check out Sky Sports 2 right now. Another Leicester home game (this time a pool game against Ulster in the Heineken Cup). Guess what? The ground is chocka full.

difference being heineken cup and not aviva. and Ulster have quite a big following as well.

Re: What is the RFL doing to attract the affluent classes? : Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:01 pm  

So what were saying is if you want to get attendences above 20k make sure there is no good football (soccer) club within a 50 mile radius?

Got it.

Re: What is the RFL doing to attract the affluent classes? : Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:02 pm  

dubairl wrote:

difference being heineken cup and not aviva. and Ulster have quite a big following as well.

Have you been counting them on TV?