Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:14 pm  

gutterfax wrote: £600,000,000 personal wealth? If he has, then his EAU company is bigger than PWC or Deloitte's because his main source of income, EuroMa Tech is in the business training and strategy market. Funnily, his UK based ventures are all pretty average. A Hotel and it's holding company, the Oxford management centre, which he has actually ben involved in a lot longer, but has dissolved and re-instated on 2 occasions are all he has openly other than Salford. http://companycheck.co.uk/director/911756333/DR-MARWAN-KOUKASH £600,000,000 personal wealth? I suspect only himself and his accountants know the truth about that! An Emirate friend of mine seems to think he owns quite a lot of real estate or dealings with it at least in Dubai and he also knew of him soon as i asked (laughed at my pronunciation of his name).

gutterfax wrote: £600,000,000 personal wealth? If he has, then his EAU company is bigger than PWC or Deloitte's because his main source of income, EuroMa Tech is in the business training and strategy market. Funnily, his UK based ventures are all pretty average. A Hotel and it's holding company, the Oxford management centre, which he has actually ben involved in a lot longer, but has dissolved and re-instated on 2 occasions are all he has openly other than Salford. http://companycheck.co.uk/director/911756333/DR-MARWAN-KOUKASH £600,000,000 personal wealth? I suspect only himself and his accountants know the truth about that! An Emirate friend of mine seems to think he owns quite a lot of real estate or dealings with it at least in Dubai and he also knew of him soon as i asked (laughed at my pronunciation of his name).

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:17 pm  

dubairl wrote:

because you guys seem to know a way to find out that kind of information

Not me

Regards

King James

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:19 pm  

In answer to the op, I sincerely hope so, the noses it would put out of joint would be hilarious

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:19 pm  

I think his reported wealth and his actual wealth will be very different and somehow i think his actual wealth will out scale massively the reported wealth. Not quite sure why as the UK still hasn't passed the world wide tax scheme they have been planning.

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:04 pm  

Has he sold his training company or inherited wealth? If not, I'd be surpised if he is especially wealthy. He has suddenly become very high profile when he wasn't on the radar not long ago. That's what confuses me.

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:23 pm  

Dally wrote:

Has he sold his training company or inherited wealth? If not, I'd be surpised if he is especially wealthy. He has suddenly become very high profile when he wasn't on the radar not long ago. That's what confuses me.

I've heard that he's a property developer and constructor in the UAE, EuroMtech is one of his company's, but i think his true wealth is solely in Dubai and stays there, he's pretty good friends with a few of the Arab princes over there too, in the forbes rich list it said his personnel fortune was £600million plus, now I think Koukash has benefited massively with the growth of Dubai in the last 20 or so years.

Nobody can find any info over here in the uk because even though he's uk based his company's (the ones that make his money) arnt.

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:54 pm  

http://www.forbes.com/search/?q=DR+marwan+koukash He does seem to court publicity and isn't shy of the camera, but I fail to see how he has gone from student-professor- 600 million? There are an awful lot of empty properties in the middle east...lovely office blocks, shopping malls etc that I am sure have a "book" value, but if they ain't selling, then the book value is meaningless. He was trumpeted as the owner of a global training company and horse race owner when he arrived, so the property angle seems to have come from nowhere....the global training company has telephone numbers in the UAE and St Helens...... .....sounds familiar

http://www.forbes.com/search/?q=DR+marwan+koukash He does seem to court publicity and isn't shy of the camera, but I fail to see how he has gone from student-professor- 600 million? There are an awful lot of empty properties in the middle east...lovely office blocks, shopping malls etc that I am sure have a "book" value, but if they ain't selling, then the book value is meaningless. He was trumpeted as the owner of a global training company and horse race owner when he arrived, so the property angle seems to have come from nowhere....the global training company has telephone numbers in the UAE and St Helens...... .....sounds familiar

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:11 am  

I've no reason to doubt he is a very rich man. He seems to make very wise investments.

I know we are looking at the cash he has splashed in terms of players, but do we know how much he bought the club for????

If he got the club cheap because they were on the edge, then in actual effect he has had to spend very little of what ever fortune he has to buy in some players.

Whilst I'm sure he will say what ever is necessary to get Salford press ( any publicity for the club is almost good publicity.) whether he believes what he says is an entire other matter.

You put out the story you want out there. Trying to hook Tomkins and SBW, whilst if he could have got them I'm sure he would have taken them. The simple profile lifting that goes with such a bid is what really benefits Salford.

He needs to keep Salford in the headlines as it's basically free marketing. The press do all the work for nothing. Again his outburst a few days ago about season tickets the press jump on it as he raised the talk about him losing patience and leaving. But then a few days later he is talking about wanting more control over SL as a chairman. Both articles reflect counter points of getting fed up with something and wanting to become more involved.

But the one consistent outcome was headlines and coverage.

He knows he needs to raise the profile of the club to get more people through the doors and whilst no balls are being kicked the easiest way is for him to make a fuss. Whether he means any of it only he will know.

Other clubs higher up the league have already secured a large fan base to help bank roll their clubs, those without that support have to find ways to pull them in. Marketing and a high public profile is one way. It can even attract people just to see what he will do next.

If you look at other teams and say who is the biggest name at each club most clubs would be players or maybe one or two coaches. But the biggest name at Salford is the owner until a player starts to make the headlines for them.

As for season ticket sales they are 3 times ahead of where they where last year, but to get big numbers in people are going to need to see on field improvements, not just some decent names on paper.

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:31 am  

gutterfax wrote: £600,000,000 personal wealth? If he has, then his EAU company is bigger than PWC or Deloitte's because his main source of income, EuroMa Tech is in the business training and strategy market. Funnily, his UK based ventures are all pretty average. A Hotel and it's holding company, the Oxford management centre, which he has actually ben involved in a lot longer, but has dissolved and re-instated on 2 occasions are all he has openly other than Salford. http://companycheck.co.uk/director/911756333/DR-MARWAN-KOUKASH £600,000,000 personal wealth? I suspect only himself and his accountants know the truth about that! Drop a zero and we're more or less there.

gutterfax wrote: £600,000,000 personal wealth? If he has, then his EAU company is bigger than PWC or Deloitte's because his main source of income, EuroMa Tech is in the business training and strategy market. Funnily, his UK based ventures are all pretty average. A Hotel and it's holding company, the Oxford management centre, which he has actually ben involved in a lot longer, but has dissolved and re-instated on 2 occasions are all he has openly other than Salford. http://companycheck.co.uk/director/911756333/DR-MARWAN-KOUKASH £600,000,000 personal wealth? I suspect only himself and his accountants know the truth about that! Drop a zero and we're more or less there.

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:47 am  

gutterfax wrote: http://www.forbes.com/search/?q=DR+marwan+koukash He does seem to court publicity and isn't shy of the camera, but I fail to see how he has gone from student-professor- 600 million? There are an awful lot of empty properties in the middle east...lovely office blocks, shopping malls etc that I am sure have a "book" value, but if they ain't selling, then the book value is meaningless. He was trumpeted as the owner of a global training company and horse race owner when he arrived, so the property angle seems to have come from nowhere....the global training company has telephone numbers in the UAE and St Helens...... .....sounds familiar Not many in Dubai, there was some unfinished projects and buildings for the past 4 years but the majority of them have been finished or will be complete in the next year. property price for the majority of Dubai have increased by over 30 percent in the last 5 months and rental prices have gone stupid, in some areas you are looking at 50 percent increases. people did make stupid wealth for the 8 year property boom here, my local friend family went from 45 richest to the 9. so for anybody that has lived here during the silly times it wouldn't be hard to see how you can a vast wealth especially with the connections he has here. Considering good real estate agents was earning 250k a week in 2002-2008 tax free.

gutterfax wrote: http://www.forbes.com/search/?q=DR+marwan+koukash He does seem to court publicity and isn't shy of the camera, but I fail to see how he has gone from student-professor- 600 million? There are an awful lot of empty properties in the middle east...lovely office blocks, shopping malls etc that I am sure have a "book" value, but if they ain't selling, then the book value is meaningless. He was trumpeted as the owner of a global training company and horse race owner when he arrived, so the property angle seems to have come from nowhere....the global training company has telephone numbers in the UAE and St Helens...... .....sounds familiar Not many in Dubai, there was some unfinished projects and buildings for the past 4 years but the majority of them have been finished or will be complete in the next year. property price for the majority of Dubai have increased by over 30 percent in the last 5 months and rental prices have gone stupid, in some areas you are looking at 50 percent increases. people did make stupid wealth for the 8 year property boom here, my local friend family went from 45 richest to the 9. so for anybody that has lived here during the silly times it wouldn't be hard to see how you can a vast wealth especially with the connections he has here. Considering good real estate agents was earning 250k a week in 2002-2008 tax free.