And banging on about making a profit, when you've traditionally been bank rolled by Mr Fulton give a slightly false impression. Do you know how much the directors loans are from the Fultons or, have they all been written off.
Btw, not bitter, its been a great turnround since Powell came on board and you could be really challenging if not for some injuries. Get back to me when you find out.
We haven’t been bank rolled for 3 years and obviously won’t this year with last season, what part of ‘no financial assistance’ don’t you get ??? Banging on about how we have been bank rolled in the past is about as much use as me banging on about the 367 times wakey have gone bust. I have no idea how much We owe the Fulton’s and as long as we keep making a profit it doesn’t matter does it.
JESUS WEPT HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them.
"The meaning and outcome of communication is in the response you get" suggests I have not explained myself.
I am not saying get rid of layers 2/3 I am saying link them to a SL club. This way we have 14 SL clubs and 14 feeder clubs not dissimilar to the NRL version. All these players that don't make the grade or are too old to make the grade anymore will have a place to play at a competitive level.
Halifax are a Championship club that everyone applauds because they have reserve grade - but if you look at their starting 17 not one has come through the academy system so why should these clubs get more funding to simply employ players developed by other SL clubs - players such as Scott Murrell, Ben Johnston, Will Maher, Simon Grix, Steve Tyrer etc. etc.
If we alienated all the fans from the Championship - which wouldn't happen as I would include Bradford, London, Toulouse and Toronto/Cumbria in the SL - how many fans are you actually going to lose - 300 at Hunslet, 500 at Keighley, 400 at Swinton etc 10-15k at the most and not all these would simply stop attending.
For me history is a anchor not a springboard for RL.
It's true that Fax don't have a recent history of taking academy level players through the reserves into the first team, but it's certainly something that's being addressed... https://www.halifaxrlfc.co.uk/squads/halifax_academy, and we do have one player (Will Calcott) that did come via the academy and has progressed through the reserves to play for the 1st team.
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"The meaning and outcome of communication is in the response you get" suggests I have not explained myself.
I am not saying get rid of layers 2/3 I am saying link them to a SL club. This way we have 14 SL clubs and 14 feeder clubs not dissimilar to the NRL version. All these players that don't make the grade or are too old to make the grade anymore will have a place to play at a competitive level.
Halifax are a Championship club that everyone applauds because they have reserve grade - but if you look at their starting 17 not one has come through the academy system so why should these clubs get more funding to simply employ players developed by other SL clubs - players such as Scott Murrell, Ben Johnston, Will Maher, Simon Grix, Steve Tyrer etc. etc.
If we alienated all the fans from the Championship - which wouldn't happen as I would include Bradford, London, Toulouse and Toronto/Cumbria in the SL - how many fans are you actually going to lose - 300 at Hunslet, 500 at Keighley, 400 at Swinton etc 10-15k at the most and not all these would simply stop attending.
For me history is a anchor not a springboard for RL.
It's true that Fax don't have a recent history of taking academy level players through the reserves into the first team, but it's certainly something that's being addressed... https://www.halifaxrlfc.co.uk/squads/halifax_academy, and we do have one player (Will Calcott) that did come via the academy and has progressed through the reserves to play for the 1st team.
There are three clubs about 50 feet away from each other all competing for the same: bods on seats, sponsors and TV money.
Surely it makes perfect sense that these 3 clubs COMBINE and create a truly proper super club called CALDER UNITED RLFC and play at the new Castleford Stadium??
The 3 clubs right now are about as useful as one of these....
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Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.
It's true that Fax don't have a recent history of taking academy level players through the reserves into the first team, but it's certainly something that's being addressed... https://www.halifaxrlfc.co.uk/squads/halifax_academy, and we do have one player (Will Calcott) that did come via the academy and has progressed through the reserves to play for the 1st team.
Halifax will not be an isolated case - all the better sides in the Championship will be full of ex SL developed players. I ask again - should the monies go to these clubs that have consistently demonstrated an inability to develop young players either for themselves or other clubs.
What is the point in keeping clubs going that neither develop young players or who attract any kind of supporter base? Surely the monies are better spent elsewhere?
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It's true that Fax don't have a recent history of taking academy level players through the reserves into the first team, but it's certainly something that's being addressed... https://www.halifaxrlfc.co.uk/squads/halifax_academy, and we do have one player (Will Calcott) that did come via the academy and has progressed through the reserves to play for the 1st team.
Halifax will not be an isolated case - all the better sides in the Championship will be full of ex SL developed players. I ask again - should the monies go to these clubs that have consistently demonstrated an inability to develop young players either for themselves or other clubs.
What is the point in keeping clubs going that neither develop young players or who attract any kind of supporter base? Surely the monies are better spent elsewhere?
JESUS WEPT HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them.
There are three clubs about 50 feet away from each other all competing for the same: bods on seats, sponsors and TV money.
Surely it makes perfect sense that these 3 clubs COMBINE and create a truly proper super club called CALDER UNITED RLFC and play at the new Castleford Stadium??
I reckon they'd lose 25% of their core support, meaning they'd have an average of 12,000 immediately and in a 15k stadium, there's be a demand for tickets......but, the missing 3,000 fans would whine like ugly bridesmaids about 100's of years of history.......putting off any new younger fans. Wakefield and the like are the anchor that is holding SL from actually being super.....they are in the shadow of Castleford who have shown what can be achieved by marketing themselves.
Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.
Young ones are as entrenched as the older ones - If the team wasn't dominated by one team then I doubt the support would ebb away to such a degree. The attendances would be hugely influenced by the success on the field - surely merging them increases that possibility.
I reckon they'd lose 25% of their core support, meaning they'd have an average of 12,000 immediately and in a 15k stadium, there's be a demand for tickets......but, the missing 3,000 fans would whine like ugly bridesmaids about 100's of years of history.......putting off any new younger fans. Wakefield and the like are the anchor that is holding SL from actually being super.....they are in the shadow of Castleford who have shown what can be achieved by marketing themselves.
You need an anchor wrapped around you and thrown in the Calder.
I reckon they'd lose 25% of their core support, meaning they'd have an average of 12,000 immediately and in a 15k stadium, there's be a demand for tickets.......
You reckon that 75% of Trinity and Rovers fans would go to Cas to watch a merged team? You’re not as bright as you think you are.
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