Re: Which Thomas will replace Ryan Hall for England next WC? : Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:42 am  

No one mentioning last year top try scorer - Greg Eden ?

Re: Which Thomas will replace Ryan Hall for England next WC? : Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:50 am  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

Fouad Yaha (the future French William "Billy" Boston), Jodie Broughton, and Lewis Tierney, are each better wingers than Johnstone.

Thomas Johnstone is just fast and elusive, but he cannot defend, which is a basic skill, one which is vital in the modern game.

Oh you mean the defensive machine Fouad Yaha? Don't make me laugh, Stevie Wonder could score past him.

Re: Which Thomas will replace Ryan Hall for England next WC? : Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:54 am  

Tigerade wrote:

No one mentioning last year top try scorer - Greg Eden ?

No.

Re: Which Thomas will replace Ryan Hall for England next WC? : Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:58 am  

Tigerade wrote:

No one mentioning last year top try scorer - Greg Eden ?

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

Gregory Eden is just fast and elusive, but he cannot defend, which is a basic skill, one which is vital in the modern game.

Re: Which Thomas will replace Ryan Hall for England next WC? : Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:16 pm  

Shifty Cat wrote:

:shock: I would hope he has got some acrobatic tries because every decent SL winger should have that skill in their arsenal, but the fact according to you he's only scored about half a dozen in around 170 games, tells you something. As for him being the first, care to back it up with anything.

Johnstone scored about half a dozen acrobatic tries in his first full season, for what it's worth.

What also tells you something is that Makinson's scored about 100 tries in those 170ish games, whereas Johnstone (playing in a poorer side) has about 46 in 57 games.

Anyway, if you're also happy with his record, which in the last 56 games he's scored just 15 tries, which is the last 2 years and this so far, .

As for well that's like your opinion dude and picking that one ut is a bit strange as it isn't even one of his best if your talking about that interception try. Compare Makinson's against Johnstone's v Huddersfield 2016. You know the one that he went about 98 meters and used his footwork and strength to get past 3 defenders then pushed the 4th one off before outsprinting any cover. Makinson's one is a great try but in comparison, he only had one person even try to tackle him.

Having watched some of his tries I’ve probably been harsh, he’s probably scored closer to 15 acrobatic tries (the first being against a Leeds in 2012) but he rarely scores a walk in. His tries are of much higher quality than Johnstones. There’s no way you can possibly use how many tries they’ve scored to back up your argument, the amount of tries wingers score is based on the service they get and the way their team plays. It’s well known we’ve not played very expansive stuff over the past 6 years or so and Makinson (and the right side in general) hardly gets any ball. Makinson is better in every aspect except speed.

Re: Which Thomas will replace Ryan Hall for England next WC? : Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:24 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

Fouad Yaha (the future French William "Billy" Boston), Jodie Broughton, and Lewis Tierney, are each better wingers than Johnstone.

Thomas Johnstone is just fast and elusive, but he cannot defend, which is a basic skill, one which is vital in the modern game.

Jodie Broughton Now you really are being ridiculous!

Re: Which Thomas will replace Ryan Hall for England next WC? : Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:32 pm  

Adam_Harrison9 wrote:

Jesus. loving. Christ.

For once I'm with you. I've read some bizarre stuff on here but Jeans three identity assault on our collective intelligences surpasses them all. It's what I imagine being on acid is like.

Re: Which Thomas will replace Ryan Hall for England next WC? : Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:38 pm  

AS108 wrote:

Having watched some of his tries I’ve probably been harsh, he’s probably scored closer to 15 acrobatic tries (the first being against a Leeds in 2012) but he rarely scores a walk in. His tries are of much higher quality than Johnstones. There’s no way you can possibly use how many tries they’ve scored to back up your argument, the amount of tries wingers score is based on the service they get and the way their team plays. It’s well known we’ve not played very expansive stuff over the past 6 years or so and Makinson (and the right side in general) hardly gets any ball. Makinson is better in every aspect except speed.

Have you been drinking

Tey watching Johnstones highlight reel on a certain video sharing site, he can fly.
You say Makinson lacks speed, the one attribute that cannot be taught.
Btw, I'm not knocking Makinson, he's a decent player but, regarding Johnstone, you need help.

Re: Which Thomas will replace Ryan Hall for England next WC? : Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:06 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

Fouad Yaha (the future French William "Billy" Boston), Jodie Broughton, and Lewis Tierney, are each better wingers than Johnstone.

Thomas Johnstone is just fast and elusive, but he cannot defend, which is a basic skill, one which is vital in the modern game.

You need to email this to a certain Mr McNamara, here is Catalans problem

Re: Which Thomas will replace Ryan Hall for England next WC? : Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:40 pm  

Comparing Makinson to Johnstone is daft anyway. Makinson has four years experience on Johnstone, who missed the large part of last season due to a horrific ACL injury. Yet out of the two who has the greater try to game ratio?