Re: England half backs : Thu May 12, 2016 10:26 pm  

Biff Tannen wrote:

Desperate for a bite tonight aren't we? all that grief from 2011 and 2012 coming out in one big burst

Look forward to seeing Wire do their usual choke job in September...maybe October

no offense, but you are the worst team in SL.

as good as gale was, you cant judge him on that display.

he was excellent though.

Re: England half backs : Thu May 12, 2016 10:28 pm  

we are, not saying we aren't.

Gale is a top player, always seems to play well against us so was no surprise.

Re: England half backs : Fri May 13, 2016 12:44 am  

Like the majority of half backs he needs his pack singing from the same sheet, winning collision, offloading, quick ptb. Junior Moors, Grant Millington and Mike Mcmeekan gave him all that tonight. He was sublime though.

Re: England half backs : Fri May 13, 2016 6:54 am  

The main contenders at the moment should be Gale, Sneyd and Widdop.

People are talking about Tomkins as an option which I think he is, he plays in a similar role to a '6 at full back so it would be a simple transition but he must get back to fitness and form first. That said we may need him at full back given that Hardaker is playing terribly on the wing.

Re: England half backs : Fri May 13, 2016 7:19 am  

Towns88 wrote:

Like the majority of half backs he needs his pack singing from the same sheet, winning collision, offloading, quick ptb. Junior Moors, Grant Millington and Mike Mcmeekan gave him all that tonight. He was sublime though.

Have to agree.
Gale last night was top drawer (especially for a comeback game).
Of course, any half back needs a decent pack to play behind but, his all round game, running, kicking, organising, passing was close to 10/10.

He should have been given a game in the second test against the Kiwi's last season but at the moment remains an unknown at the top level but, on the basis of England having such a strong pack, I think he would do really well and he has more to his game than any of our other options.

Re: England half backs : Fri May 13, 2016 8:01 am  

Trainman wrote:

The main contenders at the moment should be Gale, Sneyd and Widdop.

People are talking about Tomkins as an option which I think he is, he plays in a similar role to a '6 at full back so it would be a simple transition but he must get back to fitness and form first. That said we may need him at full back given that Hardaker is playing terribly on the wing.

I'd certainly add Myler and Ratchford to that list - both up there with Sneyd and Gale.

Re: England half backs : Fri May 13, 2016 10:06 am  

vastman wrote:

I'd certainly add Myler and Ratchford to that list - both up there with Sneyd and Gale.

I don't think Myler is an international. He's playing well but I think he needs a Tod Carney or similar quality next to him which we don't have. Over time Myler will probably develop in a similar fashion to Maguire at Leeds but it may be too late by then. Ratchford is a decent call but wouldn't be in the halves at Warrington with Sandow and Gidley fit, in fact he wasn't in the team for a good chunk of the season. I'd have him in the squad for his utility value but not as a starter.

Re: England half backs : Fri May 13, 2016 10:08 am  

Shaul is currently the best English fullback this season and if he carries on in this form has to be favourite for the number one shirt. Tomkins shouldn't be picked ahead of him just because of his name and who he plays for. No doubt that he will though.
As for the halves, Sneyd is also in fantastic form. But I don't think he'll get the gig for England, I can see it been Gale and Widdop with Smith in the squad too (which I wouldn't agree with having him in there).

Re: England half backs : Fri May 13, 2016 10:33 am  

A unknown superstar wrote:

Shaul is currently the best English fullback this season and if he carries on in this form has to be favourite for the number one shirt. Tomkins shouldn't be picked ahead of him just because of his name and who he plays for. No doubt that he will though.
As for the halves, Sneyd is also in fantastic form. But I don't think he'll get the gig for England, I can see it been Gale and Widdop with Smith in the squad too (which I wouldn't agree with having him in there).

If I were picking an England team tomorrow then Shaul would be a very good shout, his form has been fantastic. Tomkins at his best is a class above IMO and providing he demonstrates form and fitness before the end of the season will be picked and rightly so. It does depend on him showing the form and fitness though.

I've said before a big part of who Bennet picks will depend on how he wants to play. He's a top class, if not the best coach in the game. I believe he will pick a 17 to fit a system rather than picking the best 17 players and then trying to fit them in.

Re: England half backs : Fri May 13, 2016 11:26 am  

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... ed862bc74f I wonder if 18 year old Nick O'Meley might be a future England prospect? He is a very good half/5/8 who started at Hull FC before his father moved back to Australia. He spent a few years in the Newcastle Knights system, which is the best system for halves in the world right now, with 5 out of 6 of their current junior halves in NSW train on squads right now. Nick had to play with central coast under 18s this year, but he is pretty good.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... ed862bc74f I wonder if 18 year old Nick O'Meley might be a future England prospect? He is a very good half/5/8 who started at Hull FC before his father moved back to Australia. He spent a few years in the Newcastle Knights system, which is the best system for halves in the world right now, with 5 out of 6 of their current junior halves in NSW train on squads right now. Nick had to play with central coast under 18s this year, but he is pretty good.