Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:18 am  

RLBandit wrote: It's no more or less stupid than the RFL making bold claims after one round last year. It's more forgiveable mind you, because it's just a person putting a bit of text on a discussion board, as opposed to a statement made by a sporting governing body run by people on six-figure salaries. Indeed!

RLBandit wrote: It's no more or less stupid than the RFL making bold claims after one round last year. It's more forgiveable mind you, because it's just a person putting a bit of text on a discussion board, as opposed to a statement made by a sporting governing body run by people on six-figure salaries. Indeed!

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:19 am  

Him wrote:

Except some games in the first 2 rounds have been played in poor weather but the corresponding fixture from last year was played in good weather in the summer. So you'd expect those attendances to be down a little.
Plus didn't Huddersfield and Bradford have cheap season ticket deals that they don't have this season?

Like I say, too early to tell. I'm not sure ( I mean genuinely not sure, as opposed to criticizing what you said) how much weather influences attendances. Presumably truly horrendous weather is a problem, but then if its really nice weather isn't it also true that people may go out for the day or have a barbecue? Whereas, on a dull Sunday afternoon in Winter the Rugby's a good excuse to get out of the house? I don't know. Personally, at least for Sunday games, good weather is a problem for me, because the missus makes us go out somewhere that isn't a rugby match.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:43 am  

Given the weather, I think that an aggegate attendance of 69809 for this week's pretty good going - shows how hardy us RL supporters are

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:55 am  

RLBandit wrote:

It's no more or less stupid than the RFL making bold claims after one round last year. It's more forgiveable mind you, because it's just a person putting a bit of text on a discussion board, as opposed to a statement made by a sporting governing body run by people on six-figure salaries.

Poppycock.

So let me get this straight, you think the sports governing body putting out positive spin is a stupid thing for the sport?. RL fans are a right set of miserable barstewards sometimes.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:58 am  

Exactly. It is the sports job to promote itself the best it can, to get good news stories out there.

Somehow, for reasons likely only known to them, some supposed fans of RL have decided that it is their job is to do the opposite. I am completely at a loss as to why they would want to spend their time, unpaid, doing so.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:22 am  

Grounds that are largely full, whether the year-on-year attendance for any given fixture is slightly up or slightly down, are suggestive of a sport in fairly robust health. There are simply too many gaps in the stands to suggest that this is the case although there are, of course, exceptions.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:02 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

Exactly. It is the sports job to promote itself the best it can, to get good news stories out there.

Somehow, for reasons likely only known to them, some supposed fans of RL have decided that it is their job is to do the opposite. I am completely at a loss as to why they would want to spend their time, unpaid, doing so.

There's a difference between good news and transparent spin. If we ( the critics you dislike so much) thought the RFL were doing a good job) we might feel differently, but it frustrates when we see the RFL telling us what a good job its doing when we believe the opposite.

You may, and probably do, disagree. But it really is ridiculous to suggest that being a critic or a cheerleader of the sport's governance has anything to do with your loyalty as a fan of the sport. You can love the sport and hate (or love for that matter) the way its run. No contradiction. If you don't like the way its run, and seek to explain yourself, then you're naturally going to point out actions or outcomes that support your assertion that things aren't right.

As to 'why' - who knows? why does anyone bother to share any opinion? A lot of people do, though, and we'd be in a bad way if only positive comments were allowed. You've also got to remember that any board like this is going to have a 'negative' bias, for the obvious reason that people don't usually bother to post "I just wanted to say, I think everything is great".

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:06 pm  

christopher wrote:

Poppycock.

So let me get this straight, you think the sports governing body putting out positive spin is a stupid thing for the sport?. RL fans are a right set of miserable barstewards sometimes.

I actually said "it's no more or less stupid" - would you like to explain specifically why the poster is more or less stupid than the RFL? Note: more or less. The actual level of stupidity could range from "not at all" to "Louise Mensch", but that's not the point - my answer was a response to people calling the posting of these figures, on here, "stupid".

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:36 pm  

RLBandit wrote:

I actually said "it's no more or less stupid" - would you like to explain specifically why the poster is more or less stupid than the RFL. Note: more or less. The actual level of stupidity could range from "not at all" to "Louise Mensch", but that's not the point - my answer was a response to people calling the posting of these figures, on here, "stupid".

The poster is easily more stupid.

It's the RFL's actual job to promote the sport, so highlighting things like higher attendances is not stupid at all, the poster is more stupid as he is just posting negative statistic to get a rise out of people, he really doesn't have any serious point to make.

Fair enough, we as fans can have a look at average attendances (if thats what floats your boat) but do it in a rational way showing both positives and negatives. I'm sure the RFL do look at negative percentages of attendances but common sense would say that when there are positives, you use them to your advantage.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:38 pm  

RLBandit wrote:

and we'd be in a bad way if only positive comments were allowed. You've also got to remember that any board like this is going to have a 'negative' bias, for the obvious reason that people don't usually bother to post "I just wanted to say, I think everything is great".

You're mixing up two points here. No one is saying negative comments shouldn't be aired, the difference is, some people think that the RFL are wrong for using positives to promote the game.

Whats written on here means diddly squat in the real world, on the other hand what information the RFL release has an impact.