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Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:23 am  
Why do so many people put a 'P' in the middle of Sam Tomkins name???

It really is a strange phenomenon.
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Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:45 am  
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Why do so many people put a 'P' in the middle of Sam Tomkins name???

It really is a strange phenomenon.


I always spell his name Rat Boy its easier and most know who it is.

Welsby looks a better prospect for the full back position in the England Squad can also play any position in the back line.
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Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:23 am  
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He was pretty much invisible today. Apart from his attempt at Oscar winning penalty winning performances.


Which channel were you watching ?

He had an excellent game. Mind you, so did the other 16 Saints players.
Their pack was immense but, every player was pretty much 9 or 10/10.

Mind you, they dont seem to worry too much about passing backwards :wink:
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Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:39 am  
Tomkins is still one of the best in the business.
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Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:59 pm  
Who are your wingers for the World Cup?

Makinson is the top dog, then you have the experienced wingers who have been there before and are still in decent nik, Hall and McGilvary. The untried in Davies and Johnstone and then there's the big lad at Newcastle Knights, Young.

If Tomkins is gonna be full back, as captain that seems certain. Then Welsby could also be a wing option.

Wane has chosen Marshall in his recent squad, I'm not sure I'd put him in front of the players I've already mentioned.
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Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:28 pm  
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Which channel were you watching ?

He had an excellent game. Mind you, so did the other 16 Saints players.
Their pack was immense but, every player was pretty much 9 or 10/10.

Mind you, they dont seem to worry too much about passing backwards :wink:


I wasn’t watching a channel- I was watching Connor die on the field when it mattered. again.
Do keep up. This thread is about Connor is it not????
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Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:59 am  
Connor has many skills but is let down big time with his lack of pace and his inability to control his mouth. He isn't in my opinion a full back but hasn't really shown any coach where his best position is..
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Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:08 pm  
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Connor has many skills but is let down big time with his lack of pace and his inability to control his mouth. He isn't in my opinion a full back but hasn't really shown any coach where his best position is..


For me he hasn’t been developed properly. He had the raw talent but at the point in his career where he should have been really concentrating on cementing a position and making it his own, he was flirting between many positions and allowed to just continue to “wing it”. He has never matured as a player so the raw skill exists but without the refinement it should have by now.
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Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:58 pm  
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For me he hasn’t been developed properly. He had the raw talent but at the point in his career where he should have been really concentrating on cementing a position and making it his own, he was flirting between many positions and allowed to just continue to “wing it”. He has never matured as a player so the raw skill exists but without the refinement it should have by now.



You're still upset he turned his back on you, aren't you. He doesn't choose where he plays, he plays where the coach tells him too and this player has the ability to win matches on his own and has proved it. Of course he'll make mistakes as does every player in every club but we forgive him for that because his positives are far greater than his negatives.
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Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:08 am  
Obviously this would come down to who is fit at the end of the season.

My FB for England would be Tomkins. He’s still imo the best we’ve got.

After that there’s a number in contention.

Jake Connor is good and has proven against NZ he can step up to the international game. Imo it will come down to whether he fits in with the culture that Wane is trying to create with England.

100% Welsby should be in the squad, whether he makes the team im not sure, we’ll see how he goes for the rest of the season. Great young player and versatile which is invaluable.

Ratchford and Widdop are both good options, the latter has done well in the past but both are in poor form in a struggling Warrington side. Plenty of time for that to change though.

I’m a big fan of Niall Evalds, very underrated imo.
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