Re: Mergers : Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:25 pm  

Kippaxer wrote:

What would be in it for Cas?

The novelty of seeing the wakey ground full of home fans ???

Re: Mergers : Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:26 pm  

WakeyTrin1873 wrote:

The same thing that would be in it for Wakefield and Featherstone. Bigger crowds and to be better off financially.

Quite clearly you are not right in the head.

Re: Mergers : Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:32 pm  

WakeyTrin1873 wrote:

The same thing that would be in it for Wakefield and Featherstone. Bigger crowds and to be better off financially.

Cas do ok, competent on.the field, make a profit, use the full salary cap, average 8k+.

There's absolutely nothing for Cas to gain by merging with a club who are inferior in all departments.

Re: Mergers : Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:34 pm  

Kippaxer wrote:

Cas do ok, competent on.the field, make a profit, use the full salary cap, average 8k+.

There's absolutely nothing for Cas to gain by merging with a club who are inferior in all departments.

There’s nothing in it for Fev merging with wakey, let alone Cas

Re: Mergers : Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:31 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I fully understand the sentiment in your post, however, if you cut out the 2nd and 3rd tier of the sport and rely on club academies to prepare players for SL, you will kill the sport, you would also massively alienate the fans who do attend those games and whilst some may drift towards their nearest SL club, the majority of them would be lost to the game and probably their kids and grand kids as well.

We need the whole RL pyramid to be as strong as possible, all the way through the amateur game, right up to SL and International level.
If you take out one or 2 levels you would kill the game.
Yes, there are ageing players in The Championship and League 1 BUT, there are also young kids learning their trade.
Many SL sides have players on dual reg at Championship and League 1 sides. Should they sit in the stands and vegetate or maybe just chuck them on the scrapheap if they haven't made the grade at a particular point in time.

"The meaning and outcome of communication is in the response you get" suggests I have not explained myself.

I am not saying get rid of layers 2/3 I am saying link them to a SL club. This way we have 14 SL clubs and 14 feeder clubs not dissimilar to the NRL version. All these players that don't make the grade or are too old to make the grade anymore will have a place to play at a competitive level.

Halifax are a Championship club that everyone applauds because they have reserve grade - but if you look at their starting 17 not one has come through the academy system so why should these clubs get more funding to simply employ players developed by other SL clubs - players such as Scott Murrell, Ben Johnston, Will Maher, Simon Grix, Steve Tyrer etc. etc.

If we alienated all the fans from the Championship - which wouldn't happen as I would include Bradford, London, Toulouse and Toronto/Cumbria in the SL - how many fans are you actually going to lose - 300 at Hunslet, 500 at Keighley, 400 at Swinton etc 10-15k at the most and not all these would simply stop attending.

For me history is a anchor not a springboard for RL.

Re: Mergers : Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:34 pm  

Kippaxer wrote:

Cas do ok, competent on.the field, make a profit, use the full salary cap, average 8k+.

There's absolutely nothing for Cas to gain by merging with a club who are inferior in all departments.

"Make a profit" ??

Is that why you sold you best player "cash upfront" to Wire a couple of seasons ago.
Also, how much of the Fulton loans are still on the books or, were they written off when he passed away ?

Having a wealthy guy to take care of any losses seems a little different from being "in profit".

Agree about competent on the field and not sure about the use of the cap and any marque player(s)

The cup run and hub cap have certainly helped and well done on those.

Re: Mergers : Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:37 pm  

Chris.Taylor wrote:

Absolutely, can I suggest Huddersfield and Sheffield and of course Hull FC and Newcastle.

Hull FC & Hull KR

Lets face it they have started the process already with running a joint academy. Plus listening to Lee Radford on Rugby AM about the state of junior rugby league in Hull it makes even more sense.


Workington & Whitehaven

Re: Mergers : Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:44 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote: "Make a profit" ?? Is that why you sold you best player "cash upfront" to Wire a couple of seasons ago. Also, how much of the Fulton loans are still on the books or, were they written off when he passed away ? Having a wealthy guy to take care of any losses seems a little different from being "in profit". Agree about competent on the field and not sure about the use of the cap and any marque player(s) The cup run and hub cap have certainly helped and well done on those. https://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpr ... 738478/amp That’s before we won the hub cap and 2 years after we went to wembley. “This is the third consecutive year we have posted a profit without any financial assistance” Just a quick google of ‘Cas tigers profit’ would have saved you looking dumb and bitter

wrencat1873 wrote: "Make a profit" ?? Is that why you sold you best player "cash upfront" to Wire a couple of seasons ago. Also, how much of the Fulton loans are still on the books or, were they written off when he passed away ? Having a wealthy guy to take care of any losses seems a little different from being "in profit". Agree about competent on the field and not sure about the use of the cap and any marque player(s) The cup run and hub cap have certainly helped and well done on those. https://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpr ... 738478/amp That’s before we won the hub cap and 2 years after we went to wembley. “This is the third consecutive year we have posted a profit without any financial assistance” Just a quick google of ‘Cas tigers profit’ would have saved you looking dumb and bitter

Re: Mergers : Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:35 pm  

Cas Till I Die wrote:

https://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpress.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/castleford-tigers/castleford-tigers-announce-annual-profit-of-286-052-1-8738478/amp

That’s before we won the hub cap and 2 years after we went to wembley.

“This is the third consecutive year we have posted a profit without any financial assistance”

Just a quick google of ‘Cas tigers profit’ would have saved you looking dumb and bitter

And banging on about making a profit, when you've traditionally been bank rolled by Mr Fulton give a slightly false impression.
Do you know how much the directors loans are from the Fultons or, have they all been written off.

Btw, not bitter, its been a great turnround since Powell came on board and you could be really challenging if not for some injuries.
Get back to me when you find out.

Re: Mergers : Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:50 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote: "Make a profit" ?? Is that why you sold you best player "cash upfront" to Wire a couple of seasons ago. Also, how much of the Fulton loans are still on the books or, were they written off when he passed away ? Having a wealthy guy to take care of any losses seems a little different from being "in profit". Agree about competent on the field and not sure about the use of the cap and any marque player(s) The cup run and hub cap have certainly helped and well done on those. Yes a profit https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.york ... 738442/amp Things have improved considerably since Daz Clark was sold 4 years ago... Increase in attendances, League leaders prize money, Denny Solomona settlement. I believe the Fulton debt was converted to shares.

wrencat1873 wrote: "Make a profit" ?? Is that why you sold you best player "cash upfront" to Wire a couple of seasons ago. Also, how much of the Fulton loans are still on the books or, were they written off when he passed away ? Having a wealthy guy to take care of any losses seems a little different from being "in profit". Agree about competent on the field and not sure about the use of the cap and any marque player(s) The cup run and hub cap have certainly helped and well done on those. Yes a profit https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.york ... 738442/amp Things have improved considerably since Daz Clark was sold 4 years ago... Increase in attendances, League leaders prize money, Denny Solomona settlement. I believe the Fulton debt was converted to shares.