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NickyKiss wrote:
My view?

I only made a case for one and there’s only one who’s been good enough over the past few years to state a case to replace our current wingers in the International set up.

I really like Johnstone by the way. He’s a terrific talent and he more then likely will play for England. Get excited over him all you want (nit too excited though) but because other people make cases for other players, that doesn’t mean they’re bagging the lad.

You mean apart from this. :wink:
Makinson is better than Johnstone and it may be unpopular but Johnstone is overrated. Good going forward but defensively he is poor, you only need to watch the game against Salford and in particular Salford’s last try, way too far inside. As for tries scored, majority of that is down to how the team plays as well as the quality of centre inside of the winger. Would Eden have scored the amount of tries last season if he was playing for Widnes? Makinson, Davies, McGillvary and Hall are all better than Johnstone and you could argue the case for a few others as well.


As for Makinson he's a good SL player, but let's be honest some of the tries Johnstone has scored in his career, he could only dream about scoring.
As for his defense, if that's all you've got to describe his defense as poor, he's not doing too bad because If I could be arsed to go back and find the name of the games I could name times all the wingers mentioned have been caught out of position, it happens to even the best wingers in world sometimes.
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Shifty Cat wrote:
You mean apart from this. :wink:
As for Makinson he's a good SL player, but let's be honest some of the tries Johnstone has scored in his career, he could only dream about scoring.
As for his defense, if that's all you've got to describe his defense as poor, he's not doing too bad because If I could be arsed to go back and find the name of the games I could name times all the wingers mentioned have been caught out of position, it happens to even the best wingers in world sometimes.


Clearly he’s on the wind up (about Johnstone) whereas myself and others who’ve mentioned potential wing options haven’t been.

Tom Johnstone looks very good and it’s so pleasing to see him come back from a very serious injury the way he is doing currently. He may well play for England one but he has some decent competition going forward. The two lads who have the shirts will take some shifting but he looks in pole position to do so.

Had Dom Manfredi not got injured in 2016 I suspect Johnstone (and probably McGillvary) would be trying to shift him out of a shirt. It’s all irrelevant now though sadly as the lad has been massively unlucky.
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AS108 wrote:
Makinson is better than Johnstone and it may be unpopular but Johnstone is overrated. Good going forward but defensively he is poor, you only need to watch the game against Salford and in particular Salford’s last try, way too far inside. As for tries scored, majority of that is down to how the team plays as well as the quality of centre inside of the winger. Would Eden have scored the amount of tries last season if he was playing for Widnes? Makinson, Davies, McGillvary and Hall are all better than Johnstone and you could argue the case for a few others as well.


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Shifty Cat wrote:
You mean apart from this. :wink:
As for Makinson he's a good SL player, but let's be honest some of the tries Johnstone has scored in his career, he could only dream about scoring.
As for his defense, if that's all you've got to describe his defense as poor, he's not doing too bad because If I could be arsed to go back and find the name of the games I could name times all the wingers mentioned have been caught out of position, it happens to even the best wingers in world sometimes.


What a ridiculous statement. Makinson scored the first acrobatic try in SL and has scored at least half a dozen of them and his try against Hull last year at the Magic was miles better than Johnstones against Catalans. Clearly you haven’t seen many of Makinsons try’s because he’s one of the best finishers in super league and he is better than Johnstone.
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What a ridiculous statement. Makinson scored the first acrobatic try in SL and has scored at least half a dozen of them and his try against Hull last year at the Magic was miles better than Johnstones against Catalans. Clearly you haven’t seen many of Makinsons try’s because he’s one of the best finishers in super league and he is better than Johnstone.

:shock: I would hope he has got some acrobatic tries because every decent SL winger should have that skill in their arsenal, but the fact according to you he's only scored about half a dozen in around 170 games, tells you something. As for him being the first, care to back it up with anything.

Johnstone scored about half a dozen acrobatic tries in his first full season, for what it's worth.

What also tells you something is that Makinson's scored about 100 tries in those 170ish games, whereas Johnstone (playing in a poorer side) has about 46 in 57 games.

Anyway, if you're also happy with his record, which in the last 56 games he's scored just 15 tries, which is the last 2 years and this so far, 8) .

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his try against Hull last year at the Magic was miles better than Johnstone's against Catalans
well that's like your opinion dude and picking that one ut is a bit strange as it isn't even one of his best if your talking about that interception try. Compare Makinson's against Johnstone's v Huddersfield 2016. You know the one that he went about 98 meters and used his footwork and strength to get past 3 defenders then pushed the 4th one off before outsprinting any cover. Makinson's one is a great try but in comparison, he only had one person even try to tackle him.
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Makinson is better than Johnstone and it may be unpopular but Johnstone is overrated. Good going forward but defensively he is poor, you only need to watch the game against Salford and in particular Salford’s last try, way too far inside. As for tries scored, majority of that is down to how the team plays as well as the quality of centre inside of the winger. Would Eden have scored the amount of tries last season if he was playing for Widnes? Makinson, Davies, McGillvary and Hall are all better than Johnstone and you could argue the case for a few others as well.


Fouad Yaha (the future French William "Billy" Boston), Jodie Broughton, and Lewis Tierney, are each better wingers than Johnstone.

Thomas Johnstone is just fast and elusive, but he cannot defend, which is a basic skill, one which is vital in the modern game.
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Fouad Yaha (the future French William "Billy" Boston), Jodie Broughton, and Lewis Tierney, are each better wingers than Johnstone.

Thomas Johnstone is just fast and elusive, but he cannot defend, which is a basic skill, one which is vital in the modern game.


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