Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:49 am  

Dave Lister wrote:

Laughable post. Personally, I pay for my season ticket at London because I love rugby league. And I love watching games of professional rugby league. My team won't win the league but even though we had a terrible season I still had some brilliant afternoons when we picked up 2 points.

Clearly only winning interests you. Get a grip.

Yeah it's a novel idea isn't it?

Going to the game because you actually just enjoy the sport, the experience and the bonus of watching your team win?

Who'd a thunk it.

Maybe they should impose a system where, in the team that loses one of the players get's executed. Would that put enough ''meaning'' and ''importance'' on every single game?

[tb]

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:23 am  

Dougy wrote:

Its still 27 friendlies that eventually people will cotton onto and stop going. They will realise their players suddenly don't have 'that edge' that makes them play better and give us outstanding games in the regular season. Why people are happy for this continue i will never know.

Exactly as they did between 1895 and 1973. The game was absolutely dead, with no supporters attending games at all until we abolished the traditional play-offs to decide the champions and adopted the experiment of giving the title to the team who topped the table at the end of the regular season (or even five games before the end)

... On the other hand, what Leeds' two victories from fifth, and Bradford's from fourth, actually mean is that every team (or at least the majority of teams in the league) has something to play for - a real chance of winning the comp - right up to round 27 of the weekly rounds, and beyond

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:30 am  

OFFTHECUFF wrote:

No offence but Champions should be the consistent team through the season and who are top.Imagine Liverpool winning champions tag from 5th?

Or perhaps winning the Champions League and reaching a Champions League final despite never being champions in 22 years and often scraping into the top 4.

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:37 am  

If the RFL decided to change the play off system to top 3, Leeds would finish in that 3, if they scrapped the play offs all together they would be fighting for 1st 2nd, the rules at the start of the season give an opportunity for 8 teams to be champions, like it or not, the best team come play off time will be champions, Leeds have got the job done yet again, People say that they were just putting in mediocre performances all season just to end up in the 8, Yes i agree, and thats all it takes, come good at the right time and you will win. dont hate on the team - blame the system

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:38 am  

Seth wrote:

Typical of RLFANS (I say that as people on here are the minority), what a great spectacle last night showcasing our sport at it's best, the toughest athletes playing the tougest game, no other sport can match even poorer performances yet people continue to do the game down.

Couldn't agree more about last night...but that's the point, the people on here, like me, that you think are "doing the sport down" love the game as much as anyone. All I want to see is a way to bring a bit of last night to the rest of the season and to have a better shot of converting what we're capable of creating on the field into commercial success. We're totally screwed if we just say "OK, that was good, game must be in great shape". One year, it'll be Catalans vs Huddersfield and we might wake up.

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:42 am  

Same post every year! the same sad people, the same drivel spouted. We have play offs to decide the champions you have had 15 years to get used to it. Wigan did not finish top Leeds did as they won last night while 12 teams were already on their hollidays. The top 4 have all the advantage they get a second go if they lose or a week off if they win. thats what the effort in the 27 regular rounds are about. 5 to 8 have it hard all the way & have to win every game away from home. If not for the play offs my team season would have been over months ago & would you rob the Wakefield fans the excitement of the last month?
Another point, the greatest sports competition's on earth use regular games & play offs, NFL, European Champions league, World cup & European cup soccer. The other thing to realise is that if we ever spread the game we can add teams without increasing on the 27 rounds & the new people we would attract wont care how we used to run the game for a few short years in our history.
Almost forgot, well done Leeds & Warrington a great game I enjoyed every second of it & I am sorry I could not be there as I love League at every level & will watch every game I can (reguardless of my teams position or form)

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:52 am  

Beverley red wrote:

Same post every year! the same sad people, the same drivel spouted. We have play offs to decide the champions you have had 15 years to get used to it. Wigan did not finish top Leeds did as they won last night while 12 teams were already on their hollidays. The top 4 have all the advantage they get a second go if they lose or a week off if they win. thats what the effort in the 27 regular rounds are about. 5 to 8 have it hard all the way & have to win every game away from home. If not for the play offs my team season would have been over months ago & would you rob the Wakefield fans the excitement of the last month?
Another point, the greatest sports competition's on earth use regular games & play offs, NFL, European Champions league, World cup & European cup soccer. The other thing to realise is that if we ever spread the game we can add teams without increasing on the 27 rounds & the new people we would attract wont care how we used to run the game for a few short years in our history.
Almost forgot, well done Leeds & Warrington a great game I enjoyed every second of it & I am sorry I could not be there as I love League at every level & will watch every game I can (reguardless of my teams position or form)

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:53 am  

RLBandit wrote:

Couldn't agree more about last night...but that's the point, the people on here, like me, that you think are "doing the sport down" love the game as much as anyone. All I want to see is a way to bring a bit of last night to the rest of the season and to have a better shot of converting what we're capable of creating on the field into commercial success. We're totally screwed if we just say "OK, that was good, game must be in great shape". One year, it'll be Catalans vs Huddersfield and we might wake up.

RL is a minority sport, we need everything the playoffs bring, certain elements may need tweaking and some lessons learnt, I'm not saying it doesn't. My point is the negativity towards the sport by it's own fans on here far outweighs the positive, my point is that even an inferior RL match to last night still displays more athleticism, sportsmanship and determination than the countries national sport.

If its Catalan v Hudds one year, great itll mean they've earnt it and that the depth of the competition is greater.

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:58 am  

thaiad24 wrote:

If the RFL decided to change the play off system to top 3, Leeds would finish in that 3, if they scrapped the play offs all together they would be fighting for 1st 2nd, the rules at the start of the season give an opportunity for 8 teams to be champions, like it or not, the best team come play off time will be champions, Leeds have got the job done yet again, People say that they were just putting in mediocre performances all season just to end up in the 8, Yes i agree, and thats all it takes, come good at the right time and you will win. dont hate on the team - blame the system

Pretty much agree. The "play-offs", don't take away the intensity of the season, it's the number of teams that qualify for it. Having 6 or 5 would gives the regular season much more intensity as teams know a couple of losses and they could be out. One of the biggest problems is there been no advantage between 1st and 4th which is ridiculous, the crunch games like "Wire v.s Wigan" don't really matter to an extent as they know there is no advantage finishing 1st or 4th. Change it to 6 and the top two get a chance at the GF from week 1, Wigan and Warrington would be desperate to beat each other in the regular season to get this opportunity. If the RFL reduce it to 6 there would be no problem,.

Thought the GF was a great contest last night and well done Leeds!

Re: What does Leeds' victory mean for the regular season? : Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:07 am  

Top 8 is too big for our league. We don't have enough good sides, therefore a team in 5th has the easiest start to the series. Would Leeds have won it the last two seasons if we had a top 6? I don't think so... The old system would have secured 1 of the top 2 in the final, this system doesn't.

In 2011, leeds would of had to beat:

Saints away
Hudds away
Wigan away
Wire OT


This year it would have been:

Catalans away
Saints away
Wire away
Wigan OT


I don't think a team would have enough in the tank for all that. The old system favoured the top 2 and rightly so. This system gives the 5th place and easier first game than the top 4 get.....

Saying all that, I am amazed that this Leeds team has done this two years running, nut for me it is a sign that it needs changing.