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: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:15 am  
SaBadSel wrote:
IMO the championships are going to be a great competition over the next 3 years.We are seeing right from the begining that no game is a walk in the park and that any team can beat any team in these leagues.
With the threat of not being allowed to apply for superleague if you have not competed in at least 1 GF this then pushes ALL teams to perform well.
Can you imagine what the last of the three seasons would be like if say Widnes,Halifax or Leigh had not made it to the final for some reason,it would be imense pressure on the clubs.

I for one was against franchising as i feel promotion and relegation kick teams up the butt and bring with it a great Rugby League atmosphere.We are now left with what we have been dealt with and must get on with it.

IMO again, if Gatshead or Toulouse make one of the grand finals then i cant help but feel that the remaining teams do not stand a chance as this is the world of expansion and would easily overcome the question of how good your stadium is.


Yes results are very difficult to predict at the moment

Unfortunatley the people of the towns where there are Championship clubs dont seem as enthuiastic as you

Only really Widnes are posting any sort of decent crowds
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: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:41 am  
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Yes results are very difficult to predict at the moment

Unfortunatley the people of the towns where there are Championship clubs dont seem as enthuiastic as you

Only really Widnes are posting any sort of decent crowds


Which has been the case for years, with P&R or licenses
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: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:49 am  
What gets me is that most of the clubs kicking up a fuss are from clubs that without P&R were never, ever going to get back in the top flight, not without a lot of luck and years of carefull building.

Franchising has taken out the need for luck and left just the need for careful building.

Its a complete win for any team outside the top flight to take their own fortunes into their own hands and not have to rely on one good season that culminates in one single game to decide their future.
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: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:50 am  
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Because local differences will stop it from ever happening




So you're going to go to Birmingham, magic up a benefactor, stadium, junior development programme etc. I think there is a club in the Midlands that could be ready for a shot at NL2 in around 2012. But you're still light years from an SL franchise.


south yorks my apologies not being from up there i was just glancing at a map.

as for birmingham the joy of a franchise is that it can be moved. so essentially you set up in birmingham at say a football ground. hire in a SL squad, mainly aussie to start i guess then this will attract the acadmeny players. players will switch codes. benefactor there is always someone willing to put money into sport.

franchise work from the top down. you put in the SL team and the rest will follow.

as we all know the whole franchise system is a crock anyway.
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: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:58 am  
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south yorks my apologies not being from up there i was just glancing at a map.

as for birmingham the joy of a franchise is that it can be moved. so essentially you set up in birmingham at say a football ground. hire in a SL squad, mainly aussie to start i guess then this will attract the acadmeny players. players will switch codes. benefactor there is always someone willing to put money into sport.

franchise work from the top down. you put in the SL team and the rest will follow.

as we all know the whole franchise system is a crock anyway.


Which is why we're not using a franchise system, but a system of three year licenses granted to clubs which have already proved themselves on and off the field in either the Championship or SL.
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: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:55 pm  
The championships still has P&R with no licences, so how has franchising made this into a better competition?
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was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have


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: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:04 pm  
It's just like having an old friend around for dinner.....another franchising thread.
GET OVER IT YOU NORTHERN FLAT CAP WEARING, WHIPPET RACING, HOT POT EATING, PIE MAKING WANK3RS. :roll:
YOUR TEAM DESERVED A FRANCHISE...but didn't get one...Boo bloody Hoo....
Move on.....
FWIW, the new div 1 is spot on and more entertaining (in some cases) than sooper league....just learn your place at the table. :wink:
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: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:28 pm  
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It's just like having an old friend around for dinner.....another franchising thread.
GET OVER IT YOU NORTHERN FLAT CAP WEARING, WHIPPET RACING, HOT POT EATING, PIE MAKING WANK3RS. :roll:
YOUR TEAM DESERVED A FRANCHISE...but didn't get one...Boo bloody Hoo....
Move on.....
FWIW, the new div 1 is spot on and more entertaining (in some cases) than sooper league....just learn your place at the table. :wink:


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: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:49 pm  
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It's just like having an old friend around for dinner.....another franchising thread.
GET OVER IT YOU NORTHERN FLAT CAP WEARING, WHIPPET RACING, HOT POT EATING, PIE MAKING WANK3RS. :roll:
YOUR TEAM DESERVED A FRANCHISE...but didn't get one...Boo bloody Hoo....
Move on.....
FWIW, the new div 1 is spot on and more entertaining (in some cases) than sooper league....just learn your place at the table. :wink:


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: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:23 pm  
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The championships still has P&R with no licenses


Really? Care to provide a list of clubs that have bee relegated to the amateur leagues for finishing bottom of the semi pro league?

Or clubs promoted into the semi-pro ranks as a reward for winning an amateur comp? Or even for winning NL3, as was?

The fact is that every club in the Championship / Championship 1 has an indefinite franchise, without even having to reapply every 3 years.
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