JESUS WEPT HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them.
they are simply trolling and not a fan of any club
and to prove the point....
Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:
There’s nothing fake about The Toronto Wolfpack.
Alas, there is a lot that is fake........starting with their faux attempt last year to discover canadian talent to this years multiple "hook up's" with Canadian Union and their 100% reliance on both thousands of free tickets and a beer festival, not to mention the outlandish claims of attendances when anyone with eyes can see that they are simply lying and repeating the lie until people believe the lie....and they still peddle the 1st Trans-Atlantic Pro sports side.....type "1991 and WLAF" into Google
Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:
They have massive support in Canada (over 8000 home fans)
No they don't. They purchased Facebook likes.....the reality is that they get a dozen comments on their regular posts.....and their twitter feed gets a handful of shares......the attendance claimed at the widnes game was backed up with narrow lens shots of the crowd North American stadium shots from drones and other ariel shots are the norm, but the stands are strangely never shown in a panoramic shot...why wold that be?
Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:
and many in the UK, like myself, support them as my 2nd club.
Another myth. Many RL fans support their side and won't cross the road to go to away games in the same borough, let alone see an average side replace an another average side whilst delivering NOTHING of value to the sport, either in the UK or anywhere else.
Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:
Personally I don’t want to hold the sport back just so my club, Leeds Rhinos, have a better chance of success.
How would you "personally" be able to hold the sport back? As for leeds having a better chance of success......they are the most successful side i SL history you fool It makes no difference who they have beaten on the way......
Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:
Competing in a league with the likes of Wakefield, Leigh, Widnes and Salford is not as appealing as competing in a league with Catalans, Toulouse and Toronto.
Who says so? You, Lebron and Jean on here, as well as RL Realist and Joff, who seem to have overstepped the mark.....and you again target the same three teams because it gets you the bite you want......you are a troll, pure and simple and it is a mystery as to why the moderators are prepared to put up with your permanent antagonistic stance......
Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:
It’s exciting times for Super League.
No it isn't. The game needs more than a few thousand curious and beered up canadian fans once a fortnight to bolster its chances of surviving the next decade or so when broadcast rights will become more about the audience than the product and, as was shown when earlier in the year Toronto held events in a local pub for their away games, fewer than 150 people attended....so they stopped posting these events on social media.
Toronto will take £1.8 million from the UK pot should they make SL whilst delivering no value to the game other than a vaguely attractive away day for a handful of fans. No value to our naming sponsor.......no value to our main broadcast partner.....no value to our media/PR departments. They have simply bought 2 championships in the lower level. The "next" North American sides seem to have vanished, with Perez in situ at Bradford and the gym teacher from Huddersfield and his NYC pipe-dream nowhere to be seen. The Denver Test is dead in the water, as USA/Canada 2025 would seem to be....so we have a rich bloke and his team with no youth system, co conveyor belt of new talent, no "failed CFL/NFL stars" in the squad......they are London circa 1995/96......we have a rich blokes plaything which is 100% reliant on his good nature and his good health. Next year, should they make SL in the next fortnight, SL sides will be forking out £30,000 to get to their away days and will by return expect to see something tangible coming back the other way........if you get drawn in the loop fixtures v Toronto, the play off's and the cup, you could be looking at 4 visits to Toronto...£120,000......you can be damn sure that Ian Lenegan won't be happy with that if there's nothing coming back across the pond
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JESUS WEPT HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them.
I have what seems to be an indefinite ban from the Leigh forum for nothing other than stating facts
I know a bloke who had 20,000+ posts on these board who got banned for something similar....back in those days posters like yourself and Lebron wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes, but the site owners are reaping what they've sewn and now rely on you 2 and Jean for nearly 1/3rd of their traffic.
Jean does't post on the Catalans, Toulouse, London nor Toronto boards but instead inflicts his expansionist garbage on the VT...... Le Bron hardly ever posts on the St Helens Board whist fewer than 10% of your posts are on the Leeds board......
if it walks like a troll, looks like a troll and posts like a troll, what do you call it other than what it is......
I know a bloke who had 20,000+ posts on these board who got banned for something similar....back in those days posters like yourself and Lebron wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes, but the site owners are reaping what they've sewn and now rely on you 2 and Jean for nearly 1/3rd of their traffic.
Jean does't post on the Catalans, Toulouse, London nor Toronto boards but instead inflicts his expansionist garbage on the VT...... Le Bron hardly ever posts on the St Helens Board whist fewer than 10% of your posts are on the Leeds board......
if it walks like a troll, looks like a troll and posts like a troll, what do you call it other than what it is......
JESUS WEPT HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them.
Jean does't post on the Catalans, Toulouse, London nor Toronto boards but instead inflicts his expansionist garbage on the VT...... .
You obviously don't look much on the Catalans board, because if you did you would see my contributions there. Unlike you I am known on sight to the Catalans Chairman M. Bernard Guasch. Unlike you I witnessed the game day antics of David Berthezene's grand mother, which only those present at Stade Aime Giral would know of.
I was an attendee at London Broncos games at several different grounds, from the days of Richie Barnett to the days of Thomas Leuluai and Louis McCarthy-Scarsbrook. I spoke often with Tony Rea in his coaching days there, as well as the players (which included at one point Tulsen Tollett now of BBC Sports fame, and Sylvaine Houles, now coach of Toulouse). I doubt that you did that.
Unlike you I have had coffee with Richard Lewis and dinner with Carlos Zalduendo. Have you even heard of them?
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JESUS WEPT HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them.
Unlike you I am known on sight to the Catalans Chairman M. Bernard Guasch. Unlike you I witnessed the game day antics of David Berthezene's grand mother, which only those present at Stade Aime Giral would know of.
I was an attendee at London Broncos games at several different grounds, from the days of Richie Barnett to the days of Thomas Leuluai and Louis McCarthy-Scarsbrook. I spoke often with Tony Rea in his coaching days there, as well as the players (which included at one point Tulsen Tullett now of BBC Sports fame, and Sylvaine Houles, now coach of Toulouse). I doubt that you did that.
Unlike you I have had coffee with Richard Lewis and dinner with Carlos Zalduendo. Have you even heard of them?
You could have just hit Caps Lock and typed LOOK AT ME repeatedly
You could have just hit Caps Lock and typed LOOK AT ME repeatedly
No. Just comparing some of my experiences of the game with those of an ill informed and arrogant old man.
BTW I am in Sydney now and attended the NRL Preliminary final Easts vs Souths. I will be at the NRL Grand Final at ANZ next Sunday (dinner first with Sydney rock oysters and king prawns in the Members' Bistro). How about you?
JESUS WEPT HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them.
No. Just comparing some of my experiences of the game with those of an ill informed and arrogant fraud.
No...you being a narcissistic pillock as usual. I could't care less who a keyboard warrior claims to know or have met, although I must admit to wondering if you're as much of a "see you next tuesday" in reality as you are in your various online personas across other forums.
JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
BTW I am in Sydney now and attended the NRL Preliminary final Easts vs Souths. I will be at the NRL Grand Final at ANZ next Sunday (dinner first with Sydney rock oysters and king prawns in the Members' Bistro). How about you?
JESUS WEPT HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them.
You obviously don't look much on the Catalans board, because if you did you would see my contributions there.
Nope.....you are rarely on there, which is strange for a "fan"of both the French game and the inclusion of French sides in SL. It's 1 day shy of a Month since Catalans defeated Wire in the CC Final...How may of your posts since August 25th have been on the Catalans board? I'll give you a clue....of the 100 or so posts you've put on these forums since that day, not one of them is on the Catalans Board.
As I say....if it walks like a Troll, looks like one and acts like one, why wouldn't you call it out as one?
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