Re: Today's big decision : Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:12 am  

According to Hull Daily Mail. 2 season tickets. One for each group.

Clubs in top SL and in the middle 8 are going to struggle to sell any of the season tickets for that group resulting in loss of income by 2 games that they get now.

Re: Today's big decision : Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:16 am  

Gallanteer wrote:

According to Hull Daily Mail. 2 season tickets. One for each group.

Clubs in top SL and in the middle 8 are going to struggle to sell any of the season tickets for that group resulting in loss of income by 2 games that they get now.

Why wouldn't fans pay too see a relegation battle or fight for the title?

Re: Today's big decision : Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:17 am  

dubairl wrote:

Funny you mention that majority of people agreed that super league needs to go to 12 so there is more money not in effect go to 24.

Bradford average attendance is far greater that any of the championship as well and in the past decade they produced far more academy players than any championship team. So they have far more to offer super league in there current plight than any championship team will over spend to keep up with any super league club.

You mean with all that Sky money? Well done Bradford for contributing more than Championship clubs.

Re: Today's big decision : Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:28 am  

yeah leigh "had all that sky money" nothing come of it.

Re: Today's big decision : Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:07 am  

Sheldon wrote:

Why wouldn't fans pay too see a relegation battle or fight for the title?

Exactly. I'm sure Widnes v Leigh battling it out for P/R will pull CONSIDERABLY more than Widnes v London playing for nothing.

Roll on 2015.

Re: Today's big decision : Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:25 am  

Look at this from a fev , fax , Leigh point of view we have all worked hard over the last few years and seen clubs in super league lie and play in sub standard stadiums and we have had no chance to play at higher level.
We now have a system where if we are good enough we can go up if we are not good enough when we get there we go back down its simple.
It's the fact that the door is no longer closed that makes championship fans happy.

Re: Today's big decision : Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:29 am  

Sheldon wrote:

Why wouldn't fans pay too see a relegation battle or fight for the title?

They don't. We have had P+R, we have seen they don't. Clubs get better attendances as a mid table SL side than a relegation threatened one, and they are better attended as a struggling SL side than a successful championship side. That isn't my opinion, it's just what history tells us.

Besides not all 7 games in this 2nd part will be an intense relegation battle, it is likely that a fair amount of them will be dead rubbers between teams unable to be promoted and teams already 'qualified' or where at least one of them falls into that camp

Re: Today's big decision : Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:31 am  

Fev 1979 wrote:

Look at this from a fev , fax , Leigh point of view we have all worked hard over the last few years and seen clubs in super league lie and play in sub standard stadiums and we have had no chance to play at higher level.
We now have a system where if we are good enough we can go up if we are not good enough when we get there we go back down its simple.
It's the fact that the door is no longer closed that makes championship fans happy.

Fev fax and Leigh fans aren't that many people.

Re: Today's big decision : Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:34 am  

Gallanteer wrote:

According to Hull Daily Mail. 2 season tickets. One for each group.

Clubs in top SL and in the middle 8 are going to struggle to sell any of the season tickets for that group resulting in loss of income by 2 games that they get now.

The very top will be fine, could probably raise their prices. Leeds Wigan, saints, wire, Hudds will all finish in the 8 and get extra games against each other. It's brilliant for those clubs.

The middle clubs will suffer rom the instability in that, having to sell a half season ticket then suffering the drop in the 2nd part

The bottom clubs are now championship clubs in all but name

Re: Today's big decision : Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:40 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

It is interesting.

I've had a go at running the numbers on that middle 8 sections of the league.
I did it where a team (Bradford). Won the opening 4 games. They hit 8 points.

Then they rest thinking they are safe with 8 points. Turns out that in my senario Cas finish above them on 12, Wakey on 10. And 2 other teams Featherstone and Fax get 8. Meaning you can't hit 4 wins and relax. You have to play into the 5th week and try to win that week.

It would take someone with a proper simulator to run all the possibilities. But if I change one result a Cas win over Featherstone, into a Featherstone win over Cas. Suddenly Cas are equal top on 10 points with Wakey and Featherstone. Bradford and Fax are in a playoff.

I can make it so Fax finish in 4th and Bradford 5th after relaxing in week 4. But basically you need 5 wins to be certain of safety. Any thing less and then other teams results matter.


I'm not going to do it again though as it takes an age, but anyone can do with with an excel spreadsheet.

Yes it's possible to win four games and miss out on the top 4, if five teams beat teams 6,7,8.