Re: Officiating : Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:09 am  

Judder Man wrote:

Trying to compare the Farrell v Sironen incidents is a very pathetic comparison.

But it's how this all started. Wigan fans say Sironen milked a penalty and suddenly it's turned on Farrell.

Neither were conning the ref because they were both penalties which, however, the ref originally waved play on to. If both players get up and play the ball nothing happens.

Sironen staying down gave the VR chance to look at it and advise the ref. All you hear Liam Moore say is "5". He doesn't blow up, he doesn't ask for a check. He calls the tackle and is ready to play on.

Farrell stayed down first half, but guess what.....it was a penalty which again someone clearly told Moore in his ear because he called play on.

Both were penalties and neither player "conned the ref"

Re: Officiating : Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:47 am  

Good to see the RFL reverting to type and giving Matatuia a ban for another nothing tackle. This is probably the worst one I have seen given by the RFL

Re: Officiating : Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:48 am  

TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:

Good to see the RFL reverting to type and giving Matatuia a ban for another nothing tackle. This is probably the worst one I have seen given by the RFL

So he was banned but wasn't penalised during the game? Maybe Wigan should kick up a stink like Saints did last week

Re: Officiating : Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:46 am  

The Prior ban is a joke also.

Re: Officiating : Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:44 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Both were penalties and neither player "conned the ref"

Farrell clearly did and Matty Peet has admitted that, saying his players need to do better, but it's what they've been forced to do as the ref's aren't seeing them. It was such a minor touch and clearly didn't hurt him in any way. As soon as the whistle went he jumped up quicker than a kid on Christmas morning. The second one was just embarassing from Farrell and he really should get at least a warning if not a ban for that. Farrell is getting a reputation for it, which should see the referees ignoring him in future.

Sironen, for all your accusations of cheating, did go onto his hands and knees to get up and play the ball. You can then see him exhale and visibly struggle, at which point he's probably told to go down. He's had the wind knocked out of his sails there, there's no cheating from him, but savy play from whoever told him to stay down.

Re: Officiating : Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:56 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Farrell clearly did and Matty Peet has admitted that, saying his players need to do better, but it's what they've been forced to do as the ref's aren't seeing them. It was such a minor touch and clearly didn't hurt him in any way. As soon as the whistle went he jumped up quicker than a kid on Christmas morning. The second one was just embarassing from Farrell and he really should get at least a warning if not a ban for that. Farrell is getting a reputation for it, which should see the referees ignoring him in future.

Sironen, for all your accusations of cheating, did go onto his hands and knees to get up and play the ball. You can then see him exhale and visibly struggle, at which point he's probably told to go down. He's had the wind knocked out of his sails there, there's no cheating from him, but savy play from whoever told him to stay down.

So one player staying down after contact is cheating, the other one is "savvy play".

Re: Officiating : Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:01 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

So one player staying down after contact is cheating, the other one is "savvy play".

just thinking the same Wigan player gets a smack to the face stays down =cheating,Stains player gets a smack to the face (wigan player has no chance of pulling out of the tackle) Stains player stays down= savvy.

Re: Officiating : Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:04 pm  

Jason65 wrote:

just thinking the same Wigan player gets a smack to the face stays down =cheating,Stains player gets a smack to the face (wigan player has no chance of pulling out of the tackle) Stains player stays down= savvy.

Typical cheating Wigan. Wish all our players were like St Helens players who never commit any acts of foul play.

Re: Officiating : Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:25 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

So one player staying down after contact is cheating, the other one is "savvy play".

One player got a touch that wouldn't keep a butterfly from flying, the other had his bell rung, they aren't comparable at all. It's savvy in the sense that you don't want a player playing the ball like that for welfare reasons, you want him getting checked out with a HIA (Which they did).

Re: Officiating : Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:35 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

One player got a touch that wouldn't keep a butterfly from flying, the other had his bell rung, they aren't comparable at all. It's savvy in the sense that you don't want a player playing the ball like that for welfare reasons, you want him getting checked out with a HIA (Which they did).

The one comparison is that they are both high tackles and should both be penalties regardless of how strong a hit it was. The rules don't give a gauge for how hard the player needs to be hit in the head, just that he needs to have been hit in the head.

Strangely enough, the referee didn't give either of them at the time.