Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:03 am  

NSW wrote:

Are Jake Connor fans seriously picking this week to question Sam TOMKINS defence ?

State of Connors “attempt” on Field.

Tomkins is better at every facet of the game but maybe most importantly his leadership, will to win attitude and 10+ years of big performances in big games.

Young Jack Welsby could be challenging Connor and Tomkins for that position towards the end of the season. Great win attitude and some big performances in 3 finals so far, very creative player can also play in any back position with no drop off in performance.

Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:57 pm  

I don't care too much about who does and doesn't play where, I just want some representive rugby games to watch.

I'd happily sacrifice club rugby to put the international game first.

An annual 5 nations tournament with England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland and France. And a 3 series origin game Yorkshire vs the North West.

Build it and they will come.

Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Sun Apr 03, 2022 8:47 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

Young Jack Welsby could be challenging Connor and Tomkins for that position towards the end of the season. Great win attitude and some big performances in 3 finals so far, very creative player can also play in any back position with no drop off in performance.

Agree 100% in the squad for sure!

Will be an England regular for the next decade.

Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Tue Apr 05, 2022 5:25 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

Young Jack Welsby could be challenging Connor and Tomkins for that position towards the end of the season. Great win attitude and some big performances in 3 finals so far, very creative player can also play in any back position with no drop off in performance.

Welsby is a cracking prospect, playing in a very, very good St Helens side.
Not sure he is in the same bracket as either Tomkins or Connor at this stage, although his temperament is streets ahead of both of them.

Mind you, his heroics in the GF to chase a lost cause and win the game will certainly live long in the memory.

Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:24 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Welsby is a cracking prospect, playing in a very, very good St Helens side.
Not sure he is in the same bracket as either Tomkins or Connor at this stage, although his temperament is streets ahead of both of them.

Mind you, his heroics in the GF to chase a lost cause and win the game will certainly live long in the memory.

Of course Welsby isn’t. He’s best part of 10 years younger than both of them.

Welsby is the most gifted rugby player England has produced since Lomax.

He also not a grub like the other 2. He also prefers quiet nights in with his missus rather than abusing barmaids

Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:25 am  

TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:

Of course Welsby isn’t. He’s best part of 10 years younger than both of them.

Welsby is the most gifted rugby player England has produced since Lomax.

He also not a grub like the other 2. He also prefers quiet nights in with his missus rather than abusing barmaids

I dont want to pee on your chips but, the young Sam Tomkins had skills that I havent seen from Welsby.
Btw, I'm not knocking the lad, he's a very, very good player.

It will be interesting to see where Saints and Welsby believe his best long term position is.

[Sadfish]

Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:30 am  

In attack welsby doesnt have sam's step for sure, but defensively they are both similar players.

Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:25 pm  

Sadfish wrote:

In attack welsby doesnt have sam's step for sure, but defensively they are both similar players.

Do you see him long term as a FB or perhaps closer to the middle, either in the halves or maybe loose forward (eventually) ?

[Sadfish]

Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:28 pm  

I think he will stay where he is in a Billy Slater style floating FB pos.

Re: Why jake Connor isn't in the England squad : Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:13 pm  

He was pretty much invisible today. Apart from his attempt at Oscar winning penalty winning performances.