Re: York city knights looking really good : Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:25 am  

Donnyman wrote:

We can't have a logical and factual debate leading to an agreed conclusion unless you grasp some realities.

Superleague is a league based on selling subscriptions to English fans to watch their clubs.

It's a league in which the player base is based on member clubs producing as much talent as it can from this country.

What we want from our clubs is player development, fanbases buying SKY subscriptions and private non-returnable investment where we can get it accordingly. Put simply.....

1. Rich owners
2. Fans buying TV subscriptions to see their clubs playing Superleague on TV
3. Player production systems

This isn't even up for debate, it's just a fact.

Leigh do not fully tick these boxes and Toulouse don't tick any of the boxes, and you never seem to be able to grasp this?? Is it because, as you admit, you have a penchant for ignoring what people are saying?

This is yet another fantasy post.

Last time I looked, Super League was the elite level professional RL competition in thee UK (and beyond)..

It is not a "league based on selling subscriptions to English fans to watch their clubs." - where on earth did you pull this one from

Yes, in order for it to be worth Sky's level of investment, they either need to generate money from subscriptions but, they are more reliant on selling advertising alongside their output.

Do you really think that sky are bothered whether those tuning in are from Wigan, Warrington or Western Super Mare ??

I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that you are here as click bait.
Not a fan of ANY club but just on the full time wind up.

Being a WUM is ok but, please TRY and stick to the truth.

Re: York city knights looking really good : Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:19 pm  

York were joint bottom of the league without a single win before the season got cancelled.
I wouldnt be getting that excited about them to be honest.

Re: York city knights looking really good : Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:22 pm  

RagingBull wrote:

York were joint bottom of the league without a single win before the season got cancelled.
I wouldnt be getting that excited about them to be honest.

Bramleymans excitement stems from the owner being a millionaire, not how good they are.

Re: York city knights looking really good : Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:37 pm  

RagingBull wrote:

York were joint bottom of the league without a single win before the season got cancelled.
I wouldnt be getting that excited about them to be honest.

I absolutely agree and the agreed structure functions with promotion and relegation and not directly on the individual wealth of a clubs owner.
As I said, he's either on the wind up or here as click bait.

Re: York city knights looking really good : Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:26 am  

RagingBull wrote:

York were joint bottom of the league without a single win before the season got cancelled.
I wouldnt be getting that excited about them to be honest.

Toronto Wolfpack didn't even exist back in 2016 and Canada had no domestic game and no RL TV deals.

Yet plenty of people got very excited indeed about them didn't they?

But after a few short years Toronto Wolfpack ended up bottom of Superleague without a single win, $30Million down the drain, no North American TV deals and no player production.

Yet some people are going to be getting very excited indeed to see them back to be honest

Re: York city knights looking really good : Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:29 am  

little wayne69 wrote:

Bramleymans excitement stems from the owner being a millionaire, not how good they are.

Funnily enough that's exactly the only attribute Toronto Wolfpack had, they were certainly no good when they played Superleague were they?

Re: York city knights looking really good : Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:37 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I absolutely agree and the agreed structure functions with promotion and relegation and not directly on the individual wealth of a clubs owner.
As I said, he's........................................

When you try to make it about me you lose the argument (again and again)

Funnily enough if you look carefully at Superleague, clubs certainly DO function on the ability of a rich owner to buy the quality of players needed to get promotion through the leagues.

It's your worst ever post designed to disagree with me because you can't just accept you got this all wrong.

David Argyle didn't bother about any "structures" he just heavily outspent all the part-time Championship clubs to get promotion.

TWP collapsed, but here's the real punch line, new owner Livolsi is offering his own personal wealth in exchange for a Superleague place......

"not directly on the individual wealth of a clubs owner" you say??? you could not be more wrong could you :lol:

Re: York city knights looking really good : Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:48 am  

RagingBull wrote:

York were joint bottom of the league without a single win I wouldnt be getting that excited about them to be honest.

But so many people will be getting excited about Toronto at the end of this week?

What's the difference?

Well once again York have player development systems and York people can but SKY dishes can't they? Same for Newcastle??

So can't they both just make an application to get into Superleague without bothering with P&R??

That's what Livolsi is doing??

Re: York city knights looking really good : Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:06 pm  

Donnyman wrote:

Toronto Wolfpack didn't even exist back in 2016 and Canada had no domestic game and no RL TV deals.

Yet plenty of people got very excited indeed about them didn't they?

But after a few short years Toronto Wolfpack ended up bottom of Superleague without a single win, $30Million down the drain, no North American TV deals and no player production.

Yet some people are going to be getting very excited indeed to see them back to be honest

I could start a thread about DIY and Donnyman would somehow mention Toronto such is his obsession

Re: York city knights looking really good : Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:49 pm  

Steph Curry wrote: I could start a thread about DIY and Donnyman would somehow mention Toronto such is his obsession funny you said that just bought a bucket a paint called Toronto from B&Q I would of called it magnolia https://www.diy.com/search?term=toronto+paint

Steph Curry wrote: I could start a thread about DIY and Donnyman would somehow mention Toronto such is his obsession funny you said that just bought a bucket a paint called Toronto from B&Q I would of called it magnolia https://www.diy.com/search?term=toronto+paint