Re: BBC and Rugby League : Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:51 pm  

Pinkerton wrote:

Exactly my point.

Which 2 countries of the 14 at the Cricket World Cup provided 55% of the players? In fact, add two more from the 14 and tell me which ones delivered 85% of the players

Re: BBC and Rugby League : Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:15 pm  

Lebron James wrote:

http://www.ecb.co.uk/development/get-into-cricket/participation/

Regards

King James

Lol

"The game-wide study of grassroots participation revealed that a total of 908,000 people aged over 14 played cricket in teams – with a further 792,000 people playing cricket informally in the garden or on the beach."

Why have you taken the Sport England figures for some sports and not others? The Sport England figures aren't brilliant (they don't include under 16's and disproportionately favour sports like athletics and cycling) but the calculations are at least constant when using figures from the same source. So why take the 400k figure for tennis but not the 148k figure for Cricket?

Did it not suit the argument?

Re: BBC and Rugby League : Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:20 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Which 2 countries of the 14 at the Cricket World Cup provided 55% of the players? In fact, add two more from the 14 and tell me which ones delivered 85% of the players

I don't know because I didn't watch it and I'm not going to look through the various squads to count up where they were all from and then do a %. I saw the Ireland team featured on Sky Sports News and there were a few Aussies accents, so it's not just RL where they have Australians playing for other countries.

55% from two countries? Really? Seeing as the French, PNG, NZ, Fiji and Wales had many homegrown players in their ranks, I'd disagree.

Re: BBC and Rugby League : Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:06 am  

Pinkerton wrote:

55% from two countries? Really? Seeing as the French, PNG, NZ, Fiji and Wales had many homegrown players in their ranks, I'd disagree.

English and Australian born players made up 55% (185) of the 336 players....there is a detailed list somewhere on here in a RLWC thread......you saying you disagree is hardly a defence!

Australia, New Zealand, England, France and PNG were the only sides with a majority of their players born in the country they were representing........Ireland had not one player born in Ireland, there were 2 Italians, 2 Scots, 2 Cook Islanders, 8 welsh, 9 Samoans, 8 Tongans, 12 Fijians, 6 Americans. Outside the top 5, 49 players in 9 teams were "local" whilst 167 were ringers. 167 ringers + the 45 in the England and Australian squads is 212....which is 63% of the entire list of players.

Re: BBC and Rugby League : Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:16 am  

There was one player from Ireland actually, but I agree there were too many heritage players in the tournament. Countries like the USA and Italy could have picked more locals, were it not for stupid bans on certain players and I disagree with the common belief that if you're Australian, you must be good at RL. My beef is that the heritage aspect only comes up with RL, but you see Cricket teams (like England for example) with several heritage players, yet no one says a thing, but RL is continuously mocked over it.

Re: BBC and Rugby League : Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:21 am  

How did we get here from 'BBC and RL'?


As for the BBC website/news channels, has no one ever noticed that RL drops down the rankings during the off season every year?


Tis true.

Re: BBC and Rugby League : Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:48 am  

Pinkerton wrote:

There was one player from Ireland actually,

No there wasn't.....6 Aussies, 1 Kiwi and 17 English Born players.

Pinkerton wrote:

but I agree there were too many heritage players in the tournament.

Yep......Australia, New Zealand, England, France and PNG delivered 85% of the players......and 2017 will be exactly the same

Pinkerton wrote:

Countries like the USA and Italy could have picked more locals, were it not for stupid bans on certain players and I disagree with the common belief that if you're Australian, you must be good at RL.

A strong RLIF that stands up to the NRL and individual countries would be a start....

Pinkerton wrote:

My beef is that the heritage aspect only comes up with RL, but you see Cricket teams (like England for example) with several heritage players, yet no one says a thing, but RL is continuously mocked over it.

Hmmm....I suspect if any other sport had 35% of the teams supplying 85% of the players then that sport would get slammed. Even more so if some of the players were able to switch countries in between tournaments

Re: BBC and Rugby League : Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:15 am  

gutterfax wrote: No there wasn't.....6 Aussies, 1 Kiwi and 17 English Born players. + This guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matty_Hadden gutterfax wrote: Yep......Australia, New Zealand, England, France and PNG delivered 85% of the players......and 2017 will be exactly the same + Wales and Fijians (barring they qualify of course.) We don't know who's going to qualify yet, so we don't know who will be from where. I thought RL was only played in three countries though, will we have to include France and PNG now as well? gutterfax wrote: A strong RLIF that stands up to the NRL and individual countries would be a start.... And pigs will fly...

gutterfax wrote: No there wasn't.....6 Aussies, 1 Kiwi and 17 English Born players. + This guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matty_Hadden gutterfax wrote: Yep......Australia, New Zealand, England, France and PNG delivered 85% of the players......and 2017 will be exactly the same + Wales and Fijians (barring they qualify of course.) We don't know who's going to qualify yet, so we don't know who will be from where. I thought RL was only played in three countries though, will we have to include France and PNG now as well? gutterfax wrote: A strong RLIF that stands up to the NRL and individual countries would be a start.... And pigs will fly...

Re: BBC and Rugby League : Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:57 am  

Pinkerton wrote: + This guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matty_Hadden Hayden wasn't in the squad.....the RLWC site is incorrect and incomplete. (surprised???).....I really can't be arsed doing it all again but believe me, 55% aussie English and 85% 5 countries are correct figures..... Pinkerton wrote: + + Wales and Fijians (barring they qualify of course.) We don't know who's going to qualify yet, so we don't know who will be from where. I thought RL was only played in three countries though, will we have to include France and PNG now as well? France and PNG....where we have a grand total of 1 professional team.....in France, which has a Union salary cap that makes the NRL look like tiddlywinks. PNG is = Japan in union...except Japanese union is professional and financially cashed up... Pinkerton wrote: + And pigs will fly... ...there lieth the problem. In union (and soccer and cricket), the dog still wags the tail...in league, it has always been the other way around!

Pinkerton wrote: + This guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matty_Hadden Hayden wasn't in the squad.....the RLWC site is incorrect and incomplete. (surprised???).....I really can't be arsed doing it all again but believe me, 55% aussie English and 85% 5 countries are correct figures..... Pinkerton wrote: + + Wales and Fijians (barring they qualify of course.) We don't know who's going to qualify yet, so we don't know who will be from where. I thought RL was only played in three countries though, will we have to include France and PNG now as well? France and PNG....where we have a grand total of 1 professional team.....in France, which has a Union salary cap that makes the NRL look like tiddlywinks. PNG is = Japan in union...except Japanese union is professional and financially cashed up... Pinkerton wrote: + And pigs will fly... ...there lieth the problem. In union (and soccer and cricket), the dog still wags the tail...in league, it has always been the other way around!

Re: BBC and Rugby League : Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:56 am  

Son of Les wrote:

How did we get here from 'BBC and RL'?

Gutterfax, but he isnt a troll.............