Re: Cas Vs Fev a PR Disaster : Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:25 pm  

Wildthing wrote:

I was there and it was both supporters causing trouble, not one set only.
Funny how there was trouble at Cas V Hull KR, Cas V Hull FC, Wakefield V Cas and yet some Cas supporters
seem to think there fans were totally blameless in all games!

Wakefield V Hull KR was played a month or so ago and was attended by a similar crowd to the one last
week and not a hint of trouble. Funny that eh?

I think you need to check your facts, the 'trouble' v fc was one hull fan pouring beer over a young Cas lad, he then promptly ran away when Richie Owen and all the hull fans nearby had a go at him. The trouble v kr was some Cas fans cars had paint thrown on them and some young kr fans were seen running away. Don't make out like there was fighting at the game when there wasn't.
I've steered clear of commenting on Cas v wakey too much as I wasn't there all I know for certain is that at least 4 Cas fans had head injuries from being hit by glass bottles and that some Wakefield fans were firing fireworks at a bunch of Cas fans. According to your own fans you threw things at rangi chase and a touch judge.

I'm not saying no Cas fans were at fault on Friday but don't try to make up a pattern of Cas fans misbehaving to take pressure of your own club.

Back to the original point, fev have a minority of idiots like most clubs, but most of them are decent blokes I have many mates who are fev fans, all cracking blokes.

[Wildthing]

Re: Cas Vs Fev a PR Disaster : Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:32 pm  

pyeman wrote:

I think you need to check your facts, the 'trouble' v fc was one hull fan pouring beer over a young Cas lad, he then promptly ran away when Richie Owen and all the hull fans nearby had a go at him. The trouble v kr was some Cas fans cars had paint thrown on them and some young kr fans were seen running away. Don't make out like there was fighting at the game when there wasn't.
I've steered clear of commenting on Cas v wakey too much as I wasn't there all I know for certain is that at least 4 Cas fans had head injuries from being hit by glass bottles and that some Wakefield fans were firing fireworks at a bunch of Cas fans. According to your own fans you threw things at rangi chase and a touch judge.

I'm not saying no Cas fans were at fault on Friday but don't try to make up a pattern of Cas fans misbehaving to take pressure of your own club.

Back to the original point, fev have a minority of idiots like most clubs, but most of them are decent blokes I have many mates who are fev fans, all cracking blokes.

So you admit at both games V Hull FC and Hull KR there were some trouble (which backs up what I said) I didn't at any point state there was any fighting did I? I also know for certain Cas fans threw bottles at Wakey fans as I saw them. As for fireworks, I have no idea where you get that from?

The Cas fan at the start of this thread is whom I am responding to who stated it was all Wakefield ... which is why I responded. Not to take 'pressure' off my own club. I am in no way stating it was all Castleford, both sides had idiot supporters causing trouble at the game.

So, which of my 'facts' are incorrect?

Which club has been fined for crowd trouble in the past few years and which club hasn't?
Come on, some Cas fans are stating they were in no way to blame for any trouble at all at the game, which we both
know is factually incorrect, don't we?

Re: Cas Vs Fev a PR Disaster : Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:46 pm  

Wildthing wrote:

So you admit at both games V Hull FC and Hull KR there were some trouble (which backs up what I said) I didn't at any point state there was any fighting did I? I also know for certain Cas fans threw bottles at Wakey fans as I saw them. As for fireworks, I have no idea where you get that from?

The Cas fan at the start of this thread is whom I am responding to who stated it was all Wakefield ... which is why I responded. Not to take 'pressure' off my own club. I am in no way stating it was all Castleford, both sides had idiot supporters causing trouble at the game.

So, which of my 'facts' are incorrect?

Which club has been fined for crowd trouble in the past few years and which club hasn't?
Come on, some Cas fans are stating they were in no way to blame for any trouble at all at the game, which we both
know is factually incorrect, don't we?

You know exactly what you were insinuating when you said there was trouble at those games, they were minor incidents involving 1 or two fans similar minor incidents happen at rl games most weeks, wakefield themselves will have minor incidents at games throughout the season like all clubs. And yes I would say that the young Cas kid was blameless for having beer chucked over him ( well done to the nearby hull fans for telling the guy to get lost and grow up) and I would say Cas fans weren't to blame for having paint thrown on the cars. These minor incidents have no relevance to the discussion unless your trying to create a pattern that doesn't exist. I've never tried to make out that Cas fans were blameless I wasn't there so dont know what happened. As for the fireworks a mate of mine was in the group that had fireworks fired at them before the game, thankfully no one was hurt.
As for fines you might as well use that line as often as you can over the next few weeks as if the rfl are consistent wakey will be getting one soon.

Re: Cas Vs Fev a PR Disaster : Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:49 pm  

Wildthing wrote:

As for fireworks, I have no idea where you get that from?

Multiple Cas fans had fireworks fired at them before the game, there has been video footage sent to the RFL.

Wildthing wrote:

Which club has been fined for crowd trouble in the past few years and which club hasn't?
Come on, some Cas fans are stating they were in no way to blame for any trouble at all at the game, which we both
know is factually incorrect, don't we?

Which club had a spectator run onto the playing field and confront an official last year that the RFL let slide?
Wakefield fans started the bottle & firework throwing last week, which is all on video.

So you should stop being factually incorrect too

You know exactly what you were insinuating when you said there was trouble at those games, they were minor incidents involving 1 or two fans similar minor incidents happen at rl games most weeks, wakefield themselves will have minor incidents at games throughout the season like all clubs. And yes I would say that the young Cas kid was blameless for having beer chucked over him ( well done to the nearby hull fans for telling the guy to get lost and grow up) and I would say Cas fans weren't to blame for having paint thrown on the cars. These minor incidents have no relevance to the discussion unless your trying to create a pattern that doesn't exist. I've never tried to make out that Cas fans were blameless I wasn't there so dont know what happened. As for the fireworks a mate of mine was in the group that had fireworks fired at them before the game, thankfully no one was hurt.

He's a misinformed troll, it's just a shame you can't ignore list mods.

Re: Cas Vs Fev a PR Disaster : Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:06 pm  

Just out of interest what time is the kick off for Fev v Cas? If it's early that should help reduce any potential risk for trouble and you'd hope the RFL will have been in contact

[Wildthing]

Re: Cas Vs Fev a PR Disaster : Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:10 pm  

pyeman wrote:

You know exactly what you were insinuating when you said there was trouble at those games, they were minor incidents involving 1 or two fans similar minor incidents happen at rl games most weeks, wakefield themselves will have minor incidents at games throughout the season like all clubs. And yes I would say that the young Cas kid was blameless for having beer chucked over him ( well done to the nearby hull fans for telling the guy to get lost and grow up) and I would say Cas fans weren't to blame for having paint thrown on the cars. These minor incidents have no relevance to the discussion unless your trying to create a pattern that doesn't exist. I've never tried to make out that Cas fans were blameless I wasn't there so dont know what happened. As for the fireworks a mate of mine was in the group that had fireworks fired at them before the game, thankfully no one was hurt.
As for fines you might as well use that line as often as you can over the next few weeks as if the rfl are consistent wakey will be getting one soon.

Really? Thanks for telling me what Im insinuating.
Very helpful of you.

You think Cas fans were totally blameless the other night, I don't.
No further disussion required really. Have a good evening.

Re: Cas Vs Fev a PR Disaster : Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:10 pm  

What a load of hysterical claptrap.

We had an evening kick off on a bank holiday between two teams who have a long history of enmity; in an attempt to manage that and account for the movement amongst Wakey fans to occupy the new North Stand, the club made some clumsy but well meaning attempts to keep the home and visting fans apart. Castleford's CEO responded by making an inflammatory statement on their club website and as a result, there was a bit of tension in the very middle section of that North Stand.

In the end, a few drunken idiots misbehaved, for no reason other than that they chose to and hopefully, they'll be punished. Trying to place the blame on one set of fans or the other or suggesting that it's indicative of a systemic problem at either club is childish and puerile and those doing so should probably grow up.

[Wildthing]

Re: Cas Vs Fev a PR Disaster : Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:13 pm  

Gronk! wrote:

Multiple Cas fans had fireworks fired at them before the game, there has been video footage sent to the RFL.


Which club had a spectator run onto the playing field and confront an official last year that the RFL let slide?
Wakefield fans started the bottle & firework throwing last week, which is all on video.

So you should stop being factually incorrect too

He's a misinformed troll, it's just a shame you can't ignore list mods.

.... and up pops Gronk!, who is desperate for Wakefield to get a fine!!


I was at the game and offered my opinions and what I saw. You didn't go to the game but yet I'm factually incorrect and also misinformed.

You can't make it up.

Re: Cas Vs Fev a PR Disaster : Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:16 pm  

Wildthing wrote:

.... and up pops Gronk!, who is desperate for Wakefield to get a fine!!


I was at the game and offered my opinions and what I saw. You didn't go to the game but yet I'm factually incorrect and also misinformed.

You can't make it up.

Seen enough video evidence that the RFL currently have that shows Wakefield fans starting it, and the fireworks thing just adds to Wakefield's problems.

Also, not desperate just looking for the RFL to be consistent for once, Wakefield deserve a fine and only Wakefield should be fined because of the precedent the RFL have set in the past.

Re: Cas Vs Fev a PR Disaster : Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:20 pm  

Wildthing wrote:

Really? Thanks for telling me what Im insinuating.
Very helpful of you.

You think Cas fans were totally blameless the other night, I don't.
No further disussion required really. Have a good evening.

Fine pretend that's not what you we're trying to achieve I don't believe you for one second why would a Cas kid having beer chucked over him be relevant or some Cas fans cars being relevant to a discussion on crowd violence at wakey? why say the Cas fans think there blameless for these two incidents, of course the castleford fans were blameless in these incidents, they were the victims, how could it be seen any other way? ( don't really expect you to answer that one as it makes your post seem even more foolish).
Where have I said Cas fans were blameless at wakey? Don't really expect you to answer that either.