Re: Players that are out of contract : Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:09 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

We must keep-
Hansen
Prescott
Goulding
McIlorum

and i'd probably keep on-
Phelps
Coley
Fielden(on a new reduced term deal)

and i'd release-
Pryce
Carmont(dependant on who's available as replacment)
Bailey
Paleaaesina
Deacon(again dependant on who's available to replace him)

That would mean 5 players leaving but i'd hope we'd only bring in 2 or 3 with the rest of the gaps being filled by our youngsters.

Deacon will not be released as such but next year is almost certain to cease being a player and become an assistant coach only. He is currently player/assistant coach with a view to only playing for this season.

I agree with the most of the rest of them although Phelps getting another year is dependant on the development of Josh Veivers and whether his quota place is needed in another position such as prop or halfback. If Veivers has developed sufficiently to act as Amos Roberts' understudy at FB then Phelps should be let go.

Re: Players that are out of contract : Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:36 pm  

I can't keep track of all the rules etc, but aren't most clubs faced with ongoing reductions in the number of overseas players going forward? I assume that will impact some decisions - e.g. off-quota overseas players being retained when in the past they may not as any new player would be on quota etc?

Re: Players that are out of contract : Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:25 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

I can't keep track of all the rules etc, but aren't most clubs faced with ongoing reductions in the number of overseas players going forward? I assume that will impact some decisions - e.g. off-quota overseas players being retained when in the past they may not as any new player would be on quota etc?

all clubs except for crusaders and catalans(I think) have to reduce to 5 overseas players, but they are some exceptions.

Willie Manu (Hull Fc) and Ben Fisher (Hull kr) are off quota due to residency rules (more then 4 years playing in uk I believe)

at hull we have to lose one which looks like cusack to retirement.

Re: Players that are out of contract : Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:23 am  

Loyal Saint wrote:

I'd take Shenton and Richard Owen at Saints.

St Helens have....

Meli
Flannery
Fozzard
Gidley
Cunningham

We also have Wellens, Fa'asavalu, Hargreaves and Matty Smith off contract at the end of the year

Re: Players that are out of contract : Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:25 am  

C-Stander wrote:

We also have Wellens, Fa'asavalu, Hargreaves and Matty Smith off contract at the end of the year

Wouldnt mind smith as sherwins replacement.

Re: Players that are out of contract : Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:35 am  

chissitt wrote:

We will take Mitchell Sargent of your hands for you.

Deacon wouldn't be a bad shout for your lot.

Re: Players that are out of contract : Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:59 am  

cadoo wrote:

Care to elaborate?

The kids had 3 ops, recoverys not gone as planned, fingers crossed he'll play again but there's a chance he might not.

Re: Players that are out of contract : Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:14 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

Prescott...Coley...Fielden...Paleaaesina

Your four props? That would be a concern, especially the way I've seen your pack improve over the past year or so. Realistically, unless your board pull some good moves out the bag, you'd weant to hold onto 3 of these 4.

I wouldn't mind seeing Prescott at Saints, or young Cooper from Warrington.

Saints need to bolster the front row with one good signing, as most fans have commented. Who they replace gidley with is probably the most important move after that. Shenton would be good - pace, good defender and still time to develop further.

[Frosties.]

Re: Players that are out of contract : Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:06 pm  

Frosties. wrote:

Leeds

2. Scott Donald (2010) - Returning home IMO due to resigning of Lee Smith.
4. Keith Senior (2010) - already signed a new deal with us for another season, not annouced as of yet
9. Danny Buderus (2010) - will be returning home IMO replaced in FT squad by McShane.
12. Ali Lauitiiti (2010) - Game breaker and despite his leg worries if fit enough i would give him another season.
14. Matt Diskin (2010) - needs to be retained.
16. Ryan Bailey (2010) - heard links to Castleford once again, if true I would hope that we would look at LMS from Quins to replace him.
24. Luke Ambler (2010) - will be kept hold of, as he is a good quality youngster, just needs to lose the gut.
Simon Worrall (Toulouse Loan) (2010) - will be let go IMO

Re: Players that are out of contract : Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:08 pm  

Wadski wrote:

Deacon wouldn't be a bad shout for your lot.

Deacon won't be leaving Wigan (at least he will not leave to play elsewhere). He signed for Wigan as a way into coaching. He is currently a player/assistant coach for this year and is expected to retire from playing at the end of the season and will then be an assistant coach for the rest of his contract. I could only see him leaving if a better (from his point of view) coaching opportunity came his way.