: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:43 pm  

Asim wrote:

Long also provides the added advantage of a quality scrum half by scoring and making a decent share of tries.

Longy has scored about 153 tries, his kicking of the 1000 goals has been on a part time basis. For 4 seasons it use to be scully for 400+ goals also Lyon kicked quite a few.
So if Longy kicked all through his match career his potential would have been closer to 1500 goals.
Does that mean people are casting judgement on his 2009 performance.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:15 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

True. Long is wide open to criticism, but his influence over that period is undeniable. I've lost count of the number of times he's been written off and then returned with a big game at crunch time.

He's also a genuine character. Love him or loathe him, the game would be poorer without him.

Spot on, I'm in the latter category but the game needs the Long, Newton, Jimmy Lowes characters.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:30 pm  

Newton, how the hell is Newton a charachter????

Or do you mean we need someone to loathe?

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:59 pm  

he cant kick for s***, i seriously believe that if he wasnt such a prima donna, he would of been dropped as kicker a long time ago

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:05 pm  

OmneFC wrote:

he cant kick for s***, i seriously believe that if he wasnt such a prima donna, he would of been dropped as kicker a long time ago

Shows how much you know. Its a well documented fact he hates kicking and doesnt want to kick but does so because there is no one else.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:10 pm  

Eurob0y wrote:

Shows how much you know. Its a well documented fact he hates kicking and doesnt want to kick but does so because there is no one else.

no wonder he hates it hes just not that good at it, theres got to be several people in the squad who are better than him, the scary part is that if they had a better kicker then theyd prob be unbeatable

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:33 pm  

Saints aren't good enough to carry on missing GK's, it will start to count in the bigger matches can't keep scoring 3 tries for the oppositions 2.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:55 pm  

Loop wrote:

Saints aren't good enough to carry on missing GK's

2 from 2 suggests we are....

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:24 pm  

Loop wrote:

Saints aren't good enough to carry on missing GK's, it will start to count in the bigger matches can't keep scoring 3 tries for the oppositions 2.

While the rest of Super League continues to march backwards at a pace, that won't matter.

The only sides who look to have improved are Shudds, who we beat away and Hull, who are looking at fielding 13 NRL players.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:11 pm  

In praise of Long ... http://timesonline.typepad.com/rugby_le ... nd-sh.html

In praise of Long ... http://timesonline.typepad.com/rugby_le ... nd-sh.html