Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:13 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Then they will be ' blown away ' , whats the problem?

It's boring. Less fans go. Less money come in.

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:14 pm  

Trying to get back on track a little, the bottom of SL and the top of the Championship in 2014 is going to be far more exciting than previous years.

"Relegation" back on the agenda, and some meaningful funding as the prize for the respective comps means that this season will have more to play for than any for quite a while.

Anyone disagree?

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:14 pm  

SIMMSFAXTEDDY wrote:

Maybe it was the London players trying harder in that game?! They actually had something to play for, for a change!!

Sheffield were poor tht day compared to how they had been performing in the championship.

Also didn't London fly Out Jamie Soward the week before?!

I forget how London them got on in the next round vs SL opposition? Live on the bbc? Cricket score?

Some of you SL fans really do need to get a grip and support the sport as a whole rather than your obviously overgrown egos!

Go easy on em lad,some of them have just had there comfort blankets took off them and they're feeling a little insecure now

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:16 pm  

William Eve wrote:

That was already the case at both those clubs. Take away their mega cheapo season tickets and attendances collapse accordingly.

More than half the current SL clubs under the current structure do not charge SL prices for matches now. Or hadn't you noticed all the cheap season tickets, wowcher, groupon, bogof, 50% off deals over the past few seasons?

Funnily enough in my original draft I wrote a section about RL fans being very price sensitive, and was going to use examples of the various discounts eg World cup, challenge cup etc thrown at fans to try to get them to attend matches that are perceived to be of a lower quality.

Such a culture that has been developed within RL, has lead to a situation in which its now expected that tickets will be given away or heavily discounted in lesser matches. I expect this will be the case for the second league of 8 matches. Why fork out £200+ for a season ticket when you know someone will be handing out freebies in schools and shopping centres, or offering a ticket to a match for a fiver on groupon.
Koukash alluded to this re Salfords season ticket sales or lack of in the Manchester Evening News, with the following comments "It should have been far greater and stronger. It’s no use expecting free tickets – those days have gone."

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:17 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

It's boring. Less fans go. Less money come in.

Consider how interesting it's going to be at Odsal next season. The Bulls regular season relevance has now been restored. How exciting is that? Best of luck in avoiding relegation BTW.

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:17 pm  

To all those moaning about clubs going bust, bad for development. Now is the time for clubs to be run as proper business'. Time for cloths to be cut accordingly. If they don't it it will only be the club bosses to blame no one else.

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:21 pm  

j.c wrote:

Go easy on em lad,some of them have just had there comfort blankets took off them and they're feeling a little insecure now

Same folk who spend lots of time on here having a go at others for having nothing positive to say about the game have suddenly got nothing positive to say about the game themselves.

It makes one wonder whether they must have hated the game of RL all along

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:24 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

It's boring. Less fans go. Less money come in.

Not if you've just spent 23 weeks having your arrises handed to you

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:26 pm  

SIMMSFAXTEDDY wrote:

Some of you SL fans really do need to get a grip and support the sport as a whole rather than your obviously overgrown egos!

Is that the fans of the 14 teams SL, the 12 team one or the eventual 8 team one

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:35 pm  

The Chair Maker wrote:

Funnily enough in my original draft I wrote a section about RL fans being very price sensitive, and was going to use examples of the various discounts eg World cup, challenge cup etc thrown at fans to try to get them to attend matches that are perceived to be of a lower quality.

Such a culture that has been developed within RL, has lead to a situation in which its now expected that tickets will be given away or heavily discounted in lesser matches. I expect this will be the case for the second league of 8 matches. Why fork out £200+ for a season ticket when you know someone will be handing out freebies in schools and shopping centres, or offering a ticket to a match for a fiver on groupon.
Koukash alluded to this re Salfords season ticket sales or lack of in the Manchester Evening News, with the following comments "It should have been far greater and stronger. It’s no use expecting free tickets – those days have gone."

I actually think this is true in a much wider culture than just rugby league now, just look at the complaints and sulking when apple made the new iPhone "only" £100 cheaper. The only things we seem happy to pay full price for are things that seem limited.

This is of course, nothing more than mass psychology by the advertising industry, to make us go crazy when things appear a bargain (see the many Black Friday videos on a popular video sharing site)

For whatever reason, rugby league fans just don't think of things selling out, so tickets don't feel limited, so paying full price seems a rip off and it cycles. If Wigan and saints were season ticket only, do you think you'd see a (slight) increase season ticket sales?

Rugby league clubs need to be cleverer, instead of just trying to drop the price to compete with perception of value (something that it just won't win against) there needs to be more in the season ticket. If a season ticket contained access to meet the players and fans forums and exclusive content, teams would in the long run do better than just trying these silly season tickets for a 5er or whatever it is.

All in my opinion