Re: Chase - how long ban? : Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:08 am  

From one angle you can see that Chase always intends to hurt his opponent, his arm doesn't stop raising and he actually jumps into the tackle, his feet are off the ground whilst his elbow is in his face.

The other angle shows that although initial contact isn't in the face, he can see his opponent yet still raises his arm into his face and you see his elbow flick out after there is no longer resistance from his opponents face. Chase watched his elbow break his jaw, he knew what he was doing.

He then stands over him looking at what he's done with his chest puffed out and fist clenched, much like the iconic Muhammad Ali photo;

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:13 am  

Rock God X wrote:

It's quite noticable that the only people defending this 'tackle' are Cas fans. That tells you all you need to know.

No Cas fan is 'defending it'. We have all said he should be banned. It's just some of the ridiculous comments made by people that we are arguing.

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:23 am  

how many matches do you get for a Grade C offence as it has been described by RFL ?
how many for a grade A ? ferriol stuck a knee in the tackle and got an A

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:31 am  

Fully wrote:

Rock God X wrote:

It's quite noticable that the only people defending this 'tackle' are Cas fans. That tells you all you need to know.

No Cas fan is 'defending it'. We have all said he should be banned. It's just some of the ridiculous comments made by people that we are arguing.

Ridiculous comments? You're certainly fighting fire with fire then.

[Durham Giant]

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:42 am  

Towns88 wrote:

is it really that much worse then either of these incidents... For me it's similar to the first, the second one is worse in my opinion.

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How Fooking blind are you lot.

The distance that chases arm comes away from his body is what differentiates it from the moa tackle and the bridge one is a cowardly cheap shot but has nowhere near the force or connection as does Chases.

If this was a Giants player i would have no problem with 6 or 8 games.

I have yet to see any evidence that it was not forearm / elbow to the face

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:45 am  

Fully wrote:

He went for a big hit. Players do it every week, in every game, in every season. Why do you think there is all this furore over shoulder charges?

There has been only one Cas fan who has said that it wasn't a high tackle - ONE. Everyone else I've said, myself included, has agreed that it warrants a ban.

May I suggest you read what I posted again?

Anaking skywalker wrote:

The problem is that pretty much to a man everyone agrees that it was nothing short of thugish and didn't look anything like a tackle.

The key words are 'didn't look anything like a tackle.'
Not 'There has been only one Cas fan who has said that it wasn't a high tackle - ONE.' as it was in no way a tackle it was a thugish act.
Only Cas fans seem to be missing this key point.

Well them and the spineless RFL panel of course.

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:57 am  

What is also disturbing is the fact that no penalty was awarded. It was so obvious and the BBC repeated the incident quickly but there was little if any mention by the commentators either. It makes you wonder about the sport when the referee, touch judge and 2 commentators fail to spot such a blatant incident, these are supposed to be the professional and "expert" people in Rugby League, no wonder the game is in such a mess.

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:01 am  

Sorry it was Sky TV that showed the replay quickly.

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:09 am  

I would hope that Chase is harangued at every ground by fans of every club for what he's done to the lads jaw. It was the most cowardly of shots since Terry Newtons on Sean Long, it has no part in our game. Ryan Bailey received a 3 match ban for pushing Silverwood out of the way to effect a tackle, it will be interesting to see how a smashed jaw and possibly a lifetime of pain and arthritis compares in the RFL's book.

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:08 am  

Gronk! wrote:

I assume you believe this should be the case every time a player gets injured, accidental or not then? Or is it just because it was a Fev player who got injured?

Well, considering the first 2 points of contact with Ropati are Chase's head then upper arm, to say it was a deliberate elbow is falsifying things.

It was an unfortunate thing to happen, but the reaction on here has been ridiculous, if it was any other player nothing would be said (well, unless it was Bailey or Hock).

I cannot believe after 25 pages, with evidence to disprove your point of view, that you are still trying to defend this thug. You are a disgrace my good friend, and should hang your head in shame. And hope that something like this doesn't happen to you on the street. At which point I hope i'm in a position to note that 'The first contact came off the shoulder'.