Re: Elite Academies : Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:50 am  

I dont have the stats to back this up but I would hazard a guess that most grass root sports are diminishing in not just the UK but most developed nations. Its not the 80s anymore where there was nothing to do other than play sports or sniff glue. Kids these days would rather see how many likes on tik tok they can get or play fifa online with their mates, rather than partake in team sports.

Re: Elite Academies : Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:23 am  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

Correct!

It’s getting the schools playing the game again...

Not reducing the number of academies.

The schools can't be made to start playing Rugby league, and where the schools use Union orientated heads of games you have no chance.

The kids who make it are the kids who go down to Milford, Dudley Hill, Oulton, Lock Lane etc....

As for the academies you don't explain your point. 10 academies will pretty much mop up the small numbers of talented kids who will make the grade.

20 academies would be ridiculous as the general standard would be poor and not stretch the talented kids.

If a couple of kids were tearing it up at school and on the local junior circuit then come 16 they need to be playing in a higher more intensive league.

Danny McGuire runs rings round kids at East Leeds, then goes to Leeds academy and is suddenly facing much better opposition and has to up and develop his game.

Players only develop if they move on to higher standards of Rugby,



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Re: Elite Academies : Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:20 pm  

Donnyman wrote:

Yes I agree a lack of numbers.......

However the more academies you have the worse the general standard becomes.

Surely we want a competitive academy at a high level

A 10 club academy league will raise the standard a 14 club league will reduce it and will carry 100 players who are never going to make it.

Fundamentally, EVERY SL club should and need to be running their own academy.
It's quite ridiculous to preclude certain clubs because their academies aren't up to scratch.
They should be helped/forced to get them up to the required level - no excuses and it should be a pre requisite of being in SL.
A grace period for newly promoted clubs would be ok.

Re: Elite Academies : Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:27 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Fundamentally, EVERY SL club should and need to be running their own academy.
It's quite ridiculous to preclude certain clubs because their academies aren't up to scratch.
They should be helped/forced to get them up to the required level - no excuses and it should be a pre requisite of being in SL.
A grace period for newly promoted clubs would be ok.

The previous licence period WAS the grace period.

Clubs knew this was coming and it should not a single club should have been caught out by the process.

In fact, it was scheduled to happen in 2020 and was delayed for 12 months because of Covid - there are no excuses for shoddy academy set-ups..

Re: Elite Academies : Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:17 pm  

dboy wrote:

The previous licence period WAS the grace period.

Clubs knew this was coming and it should not a single club should have been caught out by the process.

In fact, it was scheduled to happen in 2020 and was delayed for 12 months because of Covid - there are no excuses for shoddy academy set-ups..

By the way, what the Wakefield poster forgot to mention was that another pre req of getting a SL licence was a stadium that was up to standard.

Bet you can’t get guess one of the 2 clubs that “promised” a SL standard stadium 10 years ago that still hasn’t delivered one?

Re: Elite Academies : Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:40 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Fundamentally, EVERY SL club should and need to be running their own academy.

it should be a pre requisite of being in SL. A grace period for newly promoted clubs would be ok.

Why stop there

If more academies is the answer then demand academies are set up at championship clubs before they gain promotion to Superleague.

Then when they go up they will go up oven ready for playing in Superleague.

No point just forming an academy once promoted, you can't set up a professional academy in just a few months after winning promotion can you? And then shut it if you go down?? You just can't do that.....

make it a pre-requirement of being in the Championship that you have an academy because according to you the more the merrier??

Lets go to 24 academies and have another 300 plus kids dragged out of community clubs none of whom will ever make a professional player.

Tell me this, how many out of every 100 players who currently join academies go on to make a professional career for themselves??

Re: Elite Academies : Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:11 am  

Poky wrote:

By the way, what the Wakefield poster forgot to mention was that another pre req of getting a SL licence was a stadium that was up to standard.

Bet you can’t get guess one of the 2 clubs that “promised” a SL standard stadium 10 years ago that still hasn’t delivered one?

At a guess I'd say Castleford Tigers maybe.

Re: Elite Academies : Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:29 am  

Poky wrote:

By the way, what the Wakefield poster forgot to mention was that another pre req of getting a SL licence was a stadium that was up to standard.

Bet you can’t get guess one of the 2 clubs that “promised” a SL standard stadium 10 years ago that still hasn’t delivered one?

No matter how many times you and people like you say this, neither Cas nor Wakefield, promised to have a new stadium in any given time frame.

It's a myth.

Re: Elite Academies : Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:07 pm  

dboy wrote:

No matter how many times you and people like you say this, neither Cas nor Wakefield, promised to have a new stadium in any given time frame.

It's a myth.

To be fair to him/her he/she's not the first, there have been others like leBron James, ruanne rebellion, AS108, and steph curry to name but a few have also said that.

Re: Elite Academies : Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:48 pm  

Poky wrote:

By the way, what the Wakefield poster forgot to mention was that another pre req of getting a SL licence was a stadium that was up to standard.

Bet you can’t get guess one of the 2 clubs that “promised” a SL standard stadium 10 years ago that still hasn’t delivered one?

Who let Steph back in?