Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:43 pm  

Zak hardaker was on that stage...is he fit to be on there with the likes of Murray? Ennis etc? Maybe he and fury had a friendly chat over a woo woo backstage?

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:47 pm  

Is Fury a criminal or someone who could be selected for Jury service in the highest courts in UK?

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:24 pm  

Seth wrote:

His views are based on religious beliefs so he can say whatever he wants?! Yeah alright then, world's f@@k ed if that's the case. "I don't believe black people should have equal rights" is that OK???

You must already know that the world is pretty f**ked based on people cutting off peoples heads, refugees everywhere, bullets gunning down concert goers. Where do you stop. Religion.

Tyson has a Christian belief.

I believe he is wrong. But he basically said that he thinks the world will end if Paedophilia is legalised.

He's in an idiot clearly.

Your post re black people is utterly idiotic and irrelevant, as I am sure you must now be reflecting on.

People are allowed to have different opinions.
I am allowed to say that I don't believe in Muslim doctrine, or their religion. However, If I did believe this, or did say it, I would instantly be barraged with the racist slur, so easily lobbed around like confetti. This from people that are supposed to be tolerant, liberal and all embracing. Instead they are narrow minded and bigots. Intelligent people do realise that not all people are the same.

Tyson Fury is wrong, he is an idiot. Say it but stop blowing things out of all known proportion and making ridiculous statements, deliberately inflammatory in order to try and stifle peoples opinions.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:56 pm  

hull smallears wrote:

You must already know that the world is pretty f**ked based on people cutting off peoples heads, refugees everywhere, bullets gunning down concert goers. Where do you stop. Religion.

Tyson has a Christian belief.

I believe he is wrong. But he basically said that he thinks the world will end if Paedophilia is legalised.

He's in an idiot clearly.

Your post re black people is utterly idiotic and irrelevant, as I am sure you must now be reflecting on.

People are allowed to have different opinions.
I am allowed to say that I don't believe in Muslim doctrine, or their religion. However, If I did believe this, or did say it, I would instantly be barraged with the racist slur, so easily lobbed around like confetti. This from people that are supposed to be tolerant, liberal and all embracing. Instead they are narrow minded and bigots. Intelligent people do realise that not all people are the same.

Tyson Fury is wrong, he is an idiot. Say it but stop blowing things out of all known proportion and making ridiculous statements, deliberately inflammatory in order to try and stifle peoples opinions.

No I stand by what I said and my post was completely relevant when people site free speech regardless of how abhorrent their views.

You posted...His views however are based on Religion and his Culture, He therefore has every right to say what he wants...

There are cultures that do believe black people shouldn't have equal rights, so I was asking you if they too should be allowed freedom of speech to express this? Or do we just stop at homophobia and sexist remarks?

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:17 pm  

Seth wrote:

No I stand by what I said and my post was completely relevant when people site free speech regardless of how abhorrent their views.

You posted...His views however are based on Religion and his Culture, He therefore has every right to say what he wants...

There are cultures that do believe black people shouldn't have equal rights, so I was asking you if they too should be allowed freedom of speech to express this? Or do we just stop at homophobia and sexist remarks?

If someone does have that issue with black people as part of their actual culture, then yeah why not they can say it. I stand by the fact your are sensationalising what was said with an irrelevant analogy.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:29 pm  

hull smallears wrote:

If someone does have that issue with black people as part of their actual culture, then yeah why not they can say it.

Think I'll leave it there then if those are your views.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:36 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

But he holds 3 world boxing titles and as such is one of the best sportsman/women we have in UK. End off, and as such should be judged on his sporting achievements in a sporting awards competition.That, even you can't argue against albeit you will because your an opinionated bigot.

Lovely stuff.
I can argue against it because I think sport is about more than the achievements on the pitch/track/in the ring etc. I think it's about a person, their abilities, their attitude and their character.

Explain how I'm a bigot or retract it.

wire-quin wrote:

'And yes, my problem is with those 72,000 douchebags who voted for him.'

What's your problem with the douchebags who maybe have an alternate opinion to you?

That they're douchebags for voting for Fury. I thought that was pretty obvious.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:38 pm  

Seth wrote:

Think I'll leave it there then if those are your views.

As I said a few pages back, people like Fury do bring people with similar views out of the woodwork.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:02 am  

Seth wrote:

Think I'll leave it there then if those are your views.

Typical selective quoting.

As you well know, NOONE is airing those views rendering your sensationalism nonsense. AND, if someone did air those views in our country, I would hope that they would rightly get locked up as I am pretty sure it is not legal.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:19 am  

hull smallears wrote:

Typical selective quoting.

As you well know, NOONE is airing those views rendering your sensationalism nonsense. AND, if someone did air those views in our country, I would hope that they would rightly get locked up as I am pretty sure it is not legal.

Hang on, I only quoted your answer to my question which was that in your view...
If someone does have that issue with black people as part of their actual culture, then yeah why not they can say it"

The only thing that followed was ". I stand by the fact your are sensationalising what was said with an irrelevant analogy" which doesn't alter your first sentence one bit.

So Ive not twisted or been selective of your quote you said what you said!

I'm glad though you've since reflected on what a stupid thing to say that was and now suggest someone should 'get locked up' for airing those views, that's quite a retraction.