Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:26 pm  

They have turned one of the simple pleasures in life to a never ending game of Sudoku.

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:28 pm  

its not just the bottom super league club fans who aren't happy its the majority of fans.
Whats going to happen?
Create instability (might be wake up call for some)
clubs going bust
Clubs having less funding
Clubs not give youngsters enough time
More overseas players
Clubs being replace like for like in potential wise
clubs playing a lot more games

All so the championship clubs felt wanted.

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:29 pm  

dubairl wrote:

So how are them attendances going to improve super league or even make your club financially stable? So its great for those fans who have stuck with there club even when no signs of playing super league where apparent but how is it going to benefit rugby league in this country? another thing super league has absolutely no chance of a salary cap raise because those same clubs will start moaning that its causing an unfair competition.

Its rather short sighted and one those things that the RFL give them selves a pat on the back for, Innovative.

Its obvious from koukash that the chairman are going to grind there teeth and bare with it but he's obviously not happy at it either.

This is my biggest concern about all this. We were just getting to a point where by the overwhelming majority were spending up to the cap limit (and therefore likely pressure for the ability to spend more) and they bring in a bunch more teams who will want to be "competitive" and demand it kept down.

It should at least rise with inflation yet no. How are we ever going to be able to compete with the financial clout of the nrl/ ru?

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:30 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

This is my biggest concern about all this. We were just getting to a point where by the overwhelming majority were spending up to the cap limit (and therefore likely pressure for the ability to spend more) and they bring in a bunch more teams who will want to be "competitive" and demand it kept down.

It should at least rise with inflation yet no. How are we ever going to be able to compete with the financial clout of the nrl/ ru?

We can't because we can't cut ties and become true elitist unlike the NRL.

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:34 pm  

Why can't we just have 12 team SL 2 up 2 down after a regular season and stick to it.

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:37 pm  

Wakefield City Loyal wrote:

Why can't we just have 12 team SL 2 up 2 down after a regular season and stick to it.

not innovative enough.

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:38 pm  

Wakefield City Loyal wrote:

Why can't we just have 12 team SL 2 up 2 down after a regular season and stick to it.

Cos it's "not fair" to those who struggle to compete in the championship.

In other news, today a tail wags it's dog

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:42 pm  

dubairl wrote:

exactly not one club in the championship has any where near that potential.

So tell us, what is the magical structure that will provide us with 12/14 fully self sufficient clubs all playing to 10,000+ crowds in their state of art stadia with teams filled with local produced talent but all with the best of the southern hemisphere spread between them, not forgetting as a result of that us regularily beating the Aussies?

Away you go

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:49 pm  

Starbug wrote:

So tell us, what is the magical structure that will provide us with 12/14 fully self sufficient clubs all playing to 10,000+ crowds in their state of art stadia with teams filled with local produced talent but all with the best of the southern hemisphere spread between them, not forgetting as a result of that us regularily beating the Aussies?

Away you go

It begins with a proper business plan by the rfl, and ends with cutting away the clubs who don't/ can't/ won't compete. If it means championship clubs become feeder teams to the elite league so be it. If the people at those clubs want to be more than that, they can apply with a proper business plan proving they could compete on a higher spending level (aka a rich guy wanting to play in the big league buys them) and the rfl are competent enough to be able to tell between the real deal and poop stirring band wagoners.

So a business plan and competency, it shouldn't be a hard place to start ...

Re: Today's big decision : Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:58 pm  

In essence the restructuring of the league is a massive downsizing exercise.

SL is being reduced to an eight team professional league.

The remaining clubs within the rugby league community will be part time operations.
A small number of these part time clubs are likely to also employ a few full time professionals.

This will have a number of effects in my opinion.

Results between the BIG8 and the rest will become meaningless blowouts as full time pros clubs come up against part timers. This wont occur immediately but will develop over a number of years.
We are likely to see an increase in competitiveness amongst the remaining clubs as they revert to a more open semi pro structure.
Revenue will become even more concentrated amongst the BIG8 clubs.
A reversion to semi professional status will see marketing and player development budgets slashed or eliminated.
Reduction in player development has actually been pre-empted by the RFL, as their plans for the academy is for the league to contain just 10 teams, with a number of these sides being affiliated to regional development squads rather than specific club academies.

It will be interesting to see how fans respond to the new league setup.
I personally think clubs outside the SL top 8 will see a sharp fall off in support when they revert to the second tier of 8 setup.
Conversely the elite championship teams may get a small crowd boost when playing in the second league of 8.
Season tickets will I suspect be problematic. A SL super club like Wigan Leeds or Saints is unlikely to get a hit on season ticket sales due to fans perception that they are guaranteed to make the top8. However I suspect a club that could face playing second league of 8 football, for example Wakefield or Bradford, may see a sharp drop off in season ticket sales, with fans unwilling to stump up big money to watch second tier football.

This begs a further question re match pricing. I don't believe clubs in the second tier of 8 will be able to charge SL prices for matches. They will have to adopt championship rates. This would also apply to things like match sponsorship and corporate hospitality.