Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:05 pm  

toastymcb wrote:

It'd be more convincing as a big hit gone wrong if he hadn't stood over him, glared at him and had a word at him about how big a man he obviously now is. Even Youngquest looked disgusted.

Oh come off it, he turned around, looked at the tackle whilst jogging slowly towards his own line. I would think that he was making sure the tackle was completed.

As for Rangi's face, from what I see of him he always looks serious like that.

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:09 pm  

Fully wrote:

Prove it.

In fact, you prove exactly what his intentions/motives/thought processes were at that point.

Thought not.

The prove is on the video, he goes in with his arm and raises his elbow!

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:10 pm  

It was an attempted shoulder charge that was poorly executed and ended up raising his elbow. It wasn't an intentional elbow, but it was a reckless one, and it was definitely an elbow involved.

I think Grade C is an awful decision, but it can change between now and Wednesday. Grade C is either the highest possible for a reckless shoulder or the lowest possible for a reckless elbow. It wasn't a shoulder, and if that's the lowest possible for an elbow then I'd hate to see the highest!

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:12 pm  

Marfa Manu wrote:

The prove is on the video, he goes in with his arm and raises his elbow!

In other words, no, you can't prove he "went to injure" another player. You're assuming that based on the nature of his tackle, which was reckless, stupid and high - as are a lot of challenges in Super League.

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:14 pm  

Marfa Manu wrote:

The prove is on the video, he goes in with his arm and raises his elbow!

Raising an elbow doesn't make it intentional to injure a player. It could have been (and probably was) just extremely reckless.

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:19 pm  

Of course he went in to injure him - that's why players do 'shoulder charges'.

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:23 pm  

bren2k wrote:

It's a rum do - I just hope that Ropati recovers quickly and that Fev can look after him in some way whilst he's unable to earn.

Tangi has job working within the club working in the community department - going to schools and training the kids etc as well as doing various media appearances on behalf of the club etc

Although limited in some capacity im sure there are some things Tangi will be able to do regarding his community job and continue to make various media appearnces once the initial effects of his operation are overcome

No doubt the club will look after him and have his best interests at heart, but i would think he will still be earning while recovering

He is though really going to be missing out on the matchday payouts and a big payday and playing appearance for the wigan game which is the most unfortuneate thing on the monetary side of things

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:28 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

Of course he went in to injure him - that's why players do 'shoulder charges'.

....That could be the most ridiculous comment since Chase should be banned for life.

A shoulder charge is intended to intimidate and force an error, not injure players.

It's rare you'll see a player go out to intentionally injure a fellow professional, you get it from time to time (biting, gouging, punching etc) but on the most part, these guys play hard because that's what they're paid to do, and they expect the opposition to play hard too.

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:48 pm  

Fevxr2i wrote:

Tangi has job working within the club working in the community department - going to schools and training the kids etc as well as doing various media appearances on behalf of the club etc

Although limited in some capacity im sure there are some things Tangi will be able to do regarding his community job and continue to make various media appearnces once the initial effects of his operation are overcome

No doubt the club will look after him and have his best interests at heart, but i would think he will still be earning while recovering

He is though really going to be missing out on the matchday payouts and a big payday and playing appearance for the wigan game which is the most unfortuneate thing on the monetary side of things

You do realise he'll have insurance, right?

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:57 pm  

Gronk! wrote:

Just like Gareth Hock should have been?

Didn't see Ryan Bailey get banned for life when he intentionally elbowed folk. Or how about McGoldrick who in the same game intentionally elbowed someone when he had the ball?

I know, let's just ban everyone for life everytime they miss time a challenge and hit someone in the face....that will leave the league brimming with quality, because it doesn't lack it at the minute right?

Never seen Hock, Bailey or McGoldrick, even Morley, in their worst moments do anything like Chase did. I don't normally get involved with family affair games unless it's saints v wigan but even the most parochial blinkered supporter can see that this was a pre-meditated thuggish act. Worst thing about it, is that it was against a fellow professional who is now unable to earn his living and is going to carry this injury for the rest of his life. Out of order and somebody should have a serious word with him. He's talented but his demons need controlling.