Re: Broncos refuse to go to Toulouse : Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:24 am  

The whole thing is problematic. Is the second tier what is supposedly a professional sport really to operate under some form of handicap rules like an amateur merit league? Did London Broncos really agree to this, or was it imposed on them by a majority of other clubs who benefit from the handicap? Does this set a precedent for handicaps in future? What is the criteria of the handicap, what if a mixed pro club could field a team that is mainly fully pro? If this handicap is actually predicated on Covid related restrictions, why are the most recent set of Covid restrictions in France not relevant? If Covid is not the full story, what are the non-covid factors?

It's this kind of comedic administration that makes RL a joke in the UK. Nobody could have predicted Covid last season, but this season they had time to deal with the issue in a way that didn't turn the competition into a joke.

Re: Broncos refuse to go to Toulouse : Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:16 pm  

happyjack wrote:

How long are these two French clubs allowed to be guests in this country?

Until some sort of leadership and collective decision making can be organised.

There are two governing bodies who don't see eye to eye and within one of these governing bodies there are splits, and when splits occur then nothing happens and the status quo remains. (no not Francis Rossi)....

We saw with the Private Equity thing that to change to that system it only needed one club to say "no" and it wasn't going to happen.

Re: Broncos refuse to go to Toulouse : Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:21 pm  

Kelvin's Ferret wrote:

It's this kind of comedic administration that makes RL a joke in the UK. .

Fear not, the RFL and SL are supposedly coming together again, all will be well

Re: Broncos refuse to go to Toulouse : Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:32 pm  

Donnyman wrote: Until some sort of leadership and collective decision making can be organised. There are two governing bodies who don't see eye to eye and within one of these governing bodies there are splits, and when splits occur then nothing happens and the status quo remains. (no not Francis Rossi).... We saw with the Private Equity thing that to change to that system it only needed one club to say "no" and it wasn't going to happen. It required a unanimous vote - not just one club saying 'No'. https://inews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/ ... one-845530 You seem to have overlooked the fact that Toulouse are in The Championship- not Super League - so only one governing body involved;The RFL. Maybe in your mind London Broncos are the one club that don't want Toulouse in the European Super League// or RFL competitions.They should be gone,then.

Donnyman wrote: Until some sort of leadership and collective decision making can be organised. There are two governing bodies who don't see eye to eye and within one of these governing bodies there are splits, and when splits occur then nothing happens and the status quo remains. (no not Francis Rossi).... We saw with the Private Equity thing that to change to that system it only needed one club to say "no" and it wasn't going to happen. It required a unanimous vote - not just one club saying 'No'. https://inews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/ ... one-845530 You seem to have overlooked the fact that Toulouse are in The Championship- not Super League - so only one governing body involved;The RFL. Maybe in your mind London Broncos are the one club that don't want Toulouse in the European Super League// or RFL competitions.They should be gone,then.

Re: Broncos refuse to go to Toulouse : Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:12 pm  

puroresu_boy wrote:

Farcical. Having rules for different teams makes the competition nothing but a joke.

If it is down to them being FT that they have to travel then it's a joke yes.

The biggest issue is forcing anyone to travel in this climate to a country going into lockdown.

Re: Broncos refuse to go to Toulouse : Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:47 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

If it is down to them being FT that they have to travel then it's a joke yes.

This is the point that Mr Hughes has decided to hang his hat on. As usual, there was an easier route that may have delivered a different outcome, but once St David has his heart set on something, then it's his way of the highway

[quote="Egg Chasing"The biggest issue is forcing anyone to travel in this climate to a country going into lockdown.[/quote]
I'd be interested to know what part of a London Broncos Players contract says that they have to fly into areas of known danger to fulfil fixtures? France is in Lockdown and I would suspect that any employer would leave themselves wide open to litigation should they willingly put their employees in harms way

Re: Broncos refuse to go to Toulouse : Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:42 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

If it is down to them being FT that they have to travel then it's a joke yes.

The biggest issue is forcing anyone to travel in this climate to a country going into lockdown.

Both issues are relevant. you make a good case

Re: Broncos refuse to go to Toulouse : Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:57 am  

Donnyman wrote:

Until some sort of leadership and collective decision making can be organised.

There are two governing bodies who don't see eye to eye and within one of these governing bodies there are splits, and when splits occur then nothing happens and the status quo remains. (no not Francis Rossi)....

We saw with the Private Equity thing that to change to that system it only needed one club to say "no" and it wasn't going to happen.

You still haven't answered my question unless you do not know, how long will these two (2) French clubs be allowed to be guests in the game in this country, assuming they are guests and it's not something you've made up in your anti French bias.

Re: Broncos refuse to go to Toulouse : Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:21 pm  

orangeman wrote:

This is the point that Mr Hughes has decided to hang his hat on. As usual, there was an easier route that may have delivered a different outcome, but once St David has his heart set on something, then it's his way of the highway

I'd be interested to know what part of a London Broncos Players contract says that they have to fly into areas of known danger to fulfil fixtures? France is in Lockdown and I would suspect that any employer would leave themselves wide open to litigation should they willingly put their employees in harms way

He had no choice but use excuses. He couldn’t use COVID as an excuse as that would require 7 players being out. All in black and white in the operational rules/laws. Of which he agreed.

Re: Broncos refuse to go to Toulouse : Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:50 pm  

I think the distinction of full time vs part time is more that the london players could viably travel, by private plane provided by Toulouse, and maintain their bubble. They could then get back to England and carry on training etc.

Whereas part time players wouldnt be able to do their day jobs and would have to isolate on return?

Difficult position as France had gone into lockdown so sending a rugby team to play over there does sound a bit silly but Toulouse so travel the other way and other than them sitting the season out I’m not sure what else they can do