Re: Wire v Hull : Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:57 am  

infamous grouse wrote:

I thought it was a good hard game where defences were on top and what I would expect of 2 top four sides

Most of the handling errors were caused by the tackling technique of both teams.

It may not be as entertaining for the neutral as the previous nights game between Widnes and Cas, the teams lower down the table have poorer defences therefore the games are high scoring.

I dont think you will win any prizes for predicting Hill and Wire finishing top 4.
There isn't a bookies on the planet that will take that bet now.

Hull do now appear to be "the real deal" and as a supporter of a club that wont finish top 4, I think it would be great for the sport if FC could win either the LLS or GF.

Re: Wire v Hull : Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:01 am  

meast wrote:

Michaeals, Fonua, Talanoa, Tuimavave ,Minichello, Manu, Pritchard, i make it 7, not ideal at all, but to be fair as Mr.Zucchini Head pointed out they did also have plenty of lads that have come through their system or, at least born in Hull.

I'd like to be able to boast a full team of academy products too, but I don't think 7 is excessive really.

Besides, when you are talking about developing players for the good of the national team it should be about quality over quantity imo. Some teams have more English players in their team, but they are filler that don't have a hope in hell of representing their country. There are at least 5 players in that team that are in the England reckoning now, and they've all got their best years ahead of them.

Re: Wire v Hull : Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:39 am  

Hasbag wrote:

Are they any neutrals actually still watching?

Nah,,,I went to bed truly awful game....

Re: Wire v Hull : Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:12 pm  

Hasbag wrote:

We do have more overseas players than most teams but at least they are all quality players and not average journeymen. I don't particularly mind where they come from so long as they are exciting to watch and taking us top of the league.

Indeed. Michaels is maybe the only one who you would say can be adequately replaced by a homegrown player (indeed him and Naughton have battled over the right wing spot all year). The rest are very good players indeed.

Incidentally, I'm not sure whose idea it was to sign him, but Fetuli Talanoa has to be one of the best bits of scouting in a long time. He was playing part time RU and working as a bin man when we signed him ffs. These days I reckon (biased as I am) he's probably in the top 5 for wingers in SL.

Re: Wire v Hull : Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:13 pm  

Saw a video of the fans fighting. No place for it, heavy bans should be handed out and the clubs should be fined for failing to control their fans.

Re: Wire v Hull : Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:14 pm  

Or does that rule only apply to some clubs and not all?

Re: Wire v Hull : Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:21 pm  

Willzay wrote:

Saw a video of the fans fighting. No place for it, heavy bans should be handed out and the clubs should be fined for failing to control their fans.

What? Rugby fans don't fight or misbehave, it must have been football fans.

Re: Wire v Hull : Sat Jun 11, 2016 4:10 pm  

Very high error count - but it's worth noting that a large number of them weren't errors at all, but the result of a sneaky hand on the ball on the ref's blind side. I also thought that Mr Child was unusually lenient around the ruck - I don't know if Ellis gets some kind of dispensation because of his advancing years, but he in particular seems to have a free reign to lay all over the tackled player.

Certainly not a game to excite the neutral - but two very high quality teams playing an edgy game in pretty difficult conditions; I enjoyed it, and it certainly demonstrates that Hull are indeed, at long last, the real deal.

Re: Wire v Hull : Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:14 pm  

Bad handling in damp and humid conditions. You only had to look at the players shirts to see how soaked they were 20 minutes in.

Nevertheless, a great attacking side like Wire were reduced to scoring off 2 appalling errors by Hull and we defended superbly well when it counted. Our pack dominated - Watts, Ellis and Minichiello were outstanding.

Hardly a classic game but if the conditions hadn't taken over, Hull could have put a lot more points on the board.

Re: Wire v Hull : Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:46 pm  

Diablo1967 wrote:

Bad handling in damp and humid conditions. You only had to look at the players shirts to see how soaked they were 20 minutes in.

Nevertheless, a great attacking side like Wire were reduced to scoring off 2 appalling errors by Hull and we defended superbly well when it counted. Our pack dominated - Watts, Ellis and Minichiello were outstanding.

Hardly a classic game but if the conditions hadn't taken over, Hull could have put a lot more points on the board.

I agree, but lets not forget that Warrington had two clear cut chances bombed by Westerman and Clark. If only one of those had come off the result could have been a lot different!