Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:01 pm  

Dally wrote:

I asked oce before but no one answered - where does the Dr's money derive from?

to be fair he is a self made man. Claimed asylum in the uk with his family during the up rest in Kuwait i believe. Studied his ass off got his PHD opened up a business consultancy company grew that whilst still being a Professor in a university, obviously other ventures during the mean time.

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:23 pm  

yes Salford could win Super League in 5-10 years IF Koukash has the patience to stay the course and they recruit wisely. Cannot see it myself. I think Clarke is simply increasing the pressure of expectation on poor old Nobby and raising Koukash's hopes unrealistically...but time will tell...this years target should be top 6 and then push on from there.

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:31 pm  

wire quin wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marwan_Koukash

Dont be lazy use google

Fantastic

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:46 pm  

John Gilbert Reds wrote:

Fancy a wager on that?

Having been party to the many discussions which Marwan Koukash has held regarding Salford, I am more than confident we'll win Super League within the next 3-5 years. Look at the squad he has assembled in less than 12 months, it's easily top 8 quality. In many ways we were limited to which players were available for 2014 and despite paying transfer fees for Gareth Hock, Rangi Chase, Tim Smith and Harrison Hansen further quality will be added as players contracts expire in 2014, 2015 and beyond.

Both Koukash and Noble have been open about how recruitment for 2015 is already in motion and the calibre of players coming in is only going to improve as the realisation hits (if it hasnt already) that we mean business and are ready to achieve something major.

I cant tell you how different the club is from the one I supported 12 months ago, it really is like a new entity entirely. Where as previously we were training at Leigh Sports Village, we now have a dedicated state of the art training facility/gym within the stadium complete with a players lounge, Richard Hunwicks (formerly of Leeds Rhinos) has come on board as head of strength and conditioning, we have appointed Rob Artingstall (formerly of Sale Sharks) as physio and Sarah O'Neil is our lead soft tissue specialist. All these appointments and changes off the field have been as impressive as the ones on it.

I'm looking forward to little old Salford rattling a few cages in the forthcoming season and beyond.

That's a cool story bro...has Dr Marwan given any targets, KPI's regarding what he expects fans wise to bankroll this "redvolution"? I ask because even if he doubles last years average attendances, he will still need to fork out around 750-800k a year to cover the shortfall. A couple of years of that, even with a couple of play-off games (but I very much doubt a home one) will soon focus his mind...and his wallet.
Don't get me wrong, a few more like him in the game would be brilliant, but Rome wasn't built in a day (but it did burn down that quickly)

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:33 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

That's a cool story bro...has Dr Marwan given any targets, KPI's regarding what he expects fans wise to bankroll this "redvolution"? I ask because even if he doubles last years average attendances, he will still need to fork out around 750-800k a year to cover the shortfall. A couple of years of that, even with a couple of play-off games (but I very much doubt a home one) will soon focus his mind...and his wallet.
Don't get me wrong, a few more like him in the game would be brilliant, but Rome wasn't built in a day (but it did burn down that quickly)

If you asked Marwan Koukash what attendances he expects he'd tell you sell outs every week. Realistically we should be aiming for 8,000 averages although this will take a couple of years of reasonable league finishes and cup runs to achieve. The absolute minimum for this season should 5,000.

I'd love to see your calculations to Marwan's 750-800k shortfall though, I assume it includes all major revenue streams such as club/player sponsorships, hospitality, merchandise sales etc?

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:15 pm  

Salford will not win SL within 5 years. That's fantasy land. Look how long it's taken Warrington and Huddersfield to make the jump from mid to top of the table and neither have won it yet.
They should be aiming to become a regular top 6 team in 5 years. Whilst Salford have lots of money now they can still only spend the salary cap, the same as at least 6 or 7 other teams. Whilst spending off the field on training facilities/staff etc is vital and will make a difference, again 5 or 6 other clubs are doing the same. And those 5 or 6 clubs have the added benefit of recent success, bigger crowds, and better youth players.
Some Salford fans are massively overestimating the strength of their current squad and massively underestimating the difficulty of breaking into the top group of clubs.

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:16 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

That's a cool story bro...has Dr Marwan given any targets, KPI's regarding what he expects fans wise to bankroll this "redvolution"? I ask because even if he doubles last years average attendances, he will still need to fork out around 750-800k a year to cover the shortfall. A couple of years of that, even with a couple of play-off games (but I very much doubt a home one) will soon focus his mind...and his wallet.
Don't get me wrong, a few more like him in the game would be brilliant, but Rome wasn't built in a day (but it did burn down that quickly)

Spot on

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:46 pm  

its sport , wierd things happen like denmark and greece winning the european championships , don`t forget wigan have gone from a side that were almost relegated 6 or 7 years ago to a side that have won 1 or 2 honours in the timescale little salford wont win a thing

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:58 pm  

Salford red all over wrote:

What you fail to mention is that whilst SJM funded your revival your club stuck with Cullen, once they finally saw the light and brought in Smith success came pretty quickly.

But Paul Cullen built most of the team that eventually broke through under Smith. I'm very happy with Warrington's record since 2009 but the fact remains that we still haven't won SL. Maybe we had some bad luck with injuries in last year's final but that just proves how damn difficult it is to become champions.

Re: Salford to win Super League 2014? : Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:58 pm  

Salford red all over wrote:

What you fail to mention is that whilst SJM funded your revival your club stuck with Cullen, once they finally saw the light and brought in Smith success came pretty quickly.

But Paul Cullen built most of the team that eventually broke through under Smith. I'm very happy with Warrington's record since 2009 but the fact remains that we still haven't won SL. Maybe we had some bad luck with injuries in last year's final but that just proves how damn difficult it is to become champions.