: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:02 pm  

Leeds_Rhydon wrote:

Probably more due to two dodgy knees, I fancied a healthy Mathers' chances. Purely speculation of course...

he's healthy now and look at him

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:14 pm  

all in all...gareth ellis went a world class 2nd row..and he'll come back a better player...


jordan tansey will also come back a damnsight better player....whether he spends his time in the newton jets or sydney roosters..thwe time there wil do him good


the like of the 2 above plus burgess,roby,eastwood,watkins,mlyler etc....have nothing to lose... they are all young enought to spend a year or 18 months in australia learning the trade.


think of it...burgesss is what? 20/21....he could do 3 or 4 years in the NRL...come back to ESL @ 25 earn stupid amounts of money....

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:28 pm  

roughyedspud wrote:

all in all...gareth ellis went a world class 2nd row..and he'll come back a better player...


jordan tansey will also come back a damnsight better player....whether he spends his time in the newton jets or sydney roosters..thwe time there wil do him good


the like of the 2 above plus burgess,roby,eastwood,watkins,mlyler etc....have nothing to lose... they are all young enought to spend a year or 18 months in australia learning the trade.


think of it...burgesss is what? 20/21....he could do 3 or 4 years in the NRL...come back to ESL @ 25 earn stupid amounts of money....

an academy side in the toyota cup?

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:27 am  

some kind of player exchange/loan system would'nt be a bad idea..



ps i meant eastmond above...not eastwood

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:15 am  

I have to laugh at this thread and the Aussies on it.

Let's get this straight, Australia lose the WC to a patched up Kiwi team and manage at last to win their first WCC in ages. So they are clearly not that great. Yet undaunted they still pedal this superiority crap over us now reaching pathetic levels as they chose to take Sheens comments out of context to make whatever point they are trying to make. It must be awfull being such an insecure nation that you need to continually dig at everything British.

So ignoring the Aussie is best claptrap and taking the word of someone who has seen well over a 1000 games in his life both here and in Oz, Ellis is a very good player. He certainly knows the basics of the game and always has. His tackling is beyond reproach, he reads the game well and he is tough as teak - he isn't perfect, he isn't even the best at what he does but he is well up there.

He will come back from Oz as a better person, his game will improve marginally as it would anyway. However the player Ellis is was made years ago thanks to his junior coaches, John Harbin, Andy Kelly, Shane McNally, Tony Smith ans McClelland. Also helping were his fellow SL players and above all himself.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:19 am  

sheens comment was that ellis lacked some of the basic skills of tackling, was surprised an international had never been taught these simple skills before

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:21 am  

dally messenger wrote:

sheens comment was that ellis lacked some of the basic skills of tackling, was surprised an international had never been taught these simple skills before

"Defensively and offensively he's got a very well-balanced game. He can tackle, he can run and he can offload the ball. He has got all the skill ranges and he's a tough kid to go with that as well."[/quote]

how many times?

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:22 am  

Catalancs wrote: "Defensively and offensively he's got a very well-balanced game. He can tackle, he can run and he can offload the ball. He has got all the skill ranges and he's a tough kid to go with that as well." how many times? [/quote] read this : http://www../forums/index. ... pic=9050.0 he made the comment.

Catalancs wrote: "Defensively and offensively he's got a very well-balanced game. He can tackle, he can run and he can offload the ball. He has got all the skill ranges and he's a tough kid to go with that as well." how many times? [/quote] read this : http://www../forums/index. ... pic=9050.0 he made the comment.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:28 am  

Super League came under fire on two fronts today in the build-up to the Carnegie World Club Challenge between Leeds Rhinos and Australian champions Manly Sea Eagles. Manly chief executive Grant Mayer, the man who spearheaded Catalans Dragons' entry into Super League in 2006, labelled the English competition "second tier", a view echoed by one of Australia's leading coaches. Mayer, who flew into England with the Sea Eagles squad on Tuesday, told the Australian Rugby League Week magazine: "Super League, to me, is still very much a second-tier competition which is for NRL players coming to the end of their careers." The Sea Eagles take on a Leeds side at Elland Road on March 1 without star forward Gareth Ellis, who has joined West Tigers but was warned on Wednesday he could struggle to adjust to the National Rugby League. Tigers coach Tim Sheen took a swipe at playing standards in Super League by claiming Ellis needs re-educating in some of the game's basics. link (http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... tlead.html)

Super League came under fire on two fronts today in the build-up to the Carnegie World Club Challenge between Leeds Rhinos and Australian champions Manly Sea Eagles. Manly chief executive Grant Mayer, the man who spearheaded Catalans Dragons' entry into Super League in 2006, labelled the English competition "second tier", a view echoed by one of Australia's leading coaches. Mayer, who flew into England with the Sea Eagles squad on Tuesday, told the Australian Rugby League Week magazine: "Super League, to me, is still very much a second-tier competition which is for NRL players coming to the end of their careers." The Sea Eagles take on a Leeds side at Elland Road on March 1 without star forward Gareth Ellis, who has joined West Tigers but was warned on Wednesday he could struggle to adjust to the National Rugby League. Tigers coach Tim Sheen took a swipe at playing standards in Super League by claiming Ellis needs re-educating in some of the game's basics. link (http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... tlead.html)

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:29 am  

dally messenger wrote:

hes referring to sheens comments that said he didnt know how to tackle properly and had to teach him some of the basics

from the link you gave me:
Tigers coach Tim Sheen took a swipe at playing standards in Super League by claiming Ellis needs re-educating in some of the game's basics.

where does he mention tackling?