Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:11 pm  

Kosh wrote: How that can only be one grade worse than Moa's accidental shoulder charge is frankly beyond me. I've just about given up on the Disciplinary Panel TBH. EDIT: Hang on - I can't find him on the RFL site at all. Am I missing something? Confirmed on here: http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/12/04/16/RUGBYL_Disciplinary.html&BID=480

Kosh wrote: How that can only be one grade worse than Moa's accidental shoulder charge is frankly beyond me. I've just about given up on the Disciplinary Panel TBH. EDIT: Hang on - I can't find him on the RFL site at all. Am I missing something? Confirmed on here: http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/12/04/16/RUGBYL_Disciplinary.html&BID=480

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:12 pm  

Kosh wrote:

How that can only be one grade worse than Moa's accidental shoulder charge is frankly beyond me. I've just about given up on the Disciplinary Panel TBH.

EDIT: Hang on - I can't find him on the RFL site at all. Am I missing something?

Have to agree with you, critical of Moa as I was it's not in the same class as that - at least Moa had the decency to look apologetic.

[Kosh]

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:14 pm  

Chief Stinkwort wrote: Confirmed on here: http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/12/04/16/RUGBYL_Disciplinary.html&BID=480 Pathetic.

Chief Stinkwort wrote: Confirmed on here: http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/12/04/16/RUGBYL_Disciplinary.html&BID=480 Pathetic.

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:19 pm  

Poor decision that.

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:22 pm  

Chief Stinkwort wrote: Confirmed on here: http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/12/04/16/RUGBYL_Disciplinary.html&BID=480 What a joke

Chief Stinkwort wrote: Confirmed on here: http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/12/04/16/RUGBYL_Disciplinary.html&BID=480 What a joke

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:23 pm  

Having a quick look at the guidelines he could actually get more than 3 games. A couple of snippets.....

− Player has record of the same or a similar offence in the past - should result in a higher
penalty than would otherwise be the case.

− If the Misconduct has caused injury to an opponent, this may result in a higher penalty than if
no injury had occurred.
− Panels may consider the length of time an injured opponent is likely to be out of the game
when passing sentence.

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:24 pm  

I wonder if a tribunal has ever stepped outside guidance before - and would this be a case they might consider it?

Players and Clubs should be aware that the normal suspension ranges are guidelines only and the Tribunal has the discretion to step outside of the normal ranges in the following three circumstances:
- If the Compliance Manager has advised the Player that, in the light of specified aggravating factors, she is going to seek a higher sanction and the Tribunal agree that such factors mean a higher sanction should be imposed;
- If the Tribunal has previously advised the Player that it will apply a higher sanction next time that Player is found to have committed a misconduct Offence; or
Sentencing Guidelines January 2010 Page 9 of 10
- If the Tribunal feels that in the light of the aggravating and mitigating factors present it is appropriate to step outside of the normal suspension range (irrespective of whether this has been requested by the Compliance Manager

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:25 pm  

Disgusting. But nothing the RFL do suprises me anymore. Spineless gits.

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:28 pm  

Highlander wrote:

I wonder if a tribunal has ever stepped outside guidance before - and would this be a case they might consider it?

Players and Clubs should be aware that the normal suspension ranges are guidelines only and the Tribunal has the discretion to step outside of the normal ranges in the following three circumstances:
- If the Compliance Manager has advised the Player that, in the light of specified aggravating factors, she is going to seek a higher sanction and the Tribunal agree that such factors mean a higher sanction should be imposed;
- If the Tribunal has previously advised the Player that it will apply a higher sanction next time that Player is found to have committed a misconduct Offence; or
Sentencing Guidelines January 2010 Page 9 of 10
- If the Tribunal feels that in the light of the aggravating and mitigating factors present it is appropriate to step outside of the normal suspension range (irrespective of whether this has been requested by the Compliance Manager

Are the decisions to cite, and the reviewing pannel the same people? If so, I very much doubt they'll step outside the guidelines. Even if its different set of people I'd be very suprised if they wanted to stick their heads above the parapet, even where it is obvious the level of sanction set is farcical.

Re: Chase - how long ban? : Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:30 pm  

The disciplinary seems to run like a lottery.
I'm as big a fan of Sinfield as you'll find on these boards but I reckon he's very lucky to get away with NFA after kicking out in the tackle...neither the officials nor the DVD managed to see any 'conclusive evidence'.

That's what galls me about the leniency of Chase's charge. There's nothing inconclusive about the evidence there.

The intention was clear and the result is horrendous for Ropati...but not for Chase. Shameful all round IMO.