Re: Toulouse : Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:32 pm  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

Swap them with Bradford and have done with it. You have one team that quite clearly struggles to sustain a SL team but might be ok in the Championship and another team that failed miserably in the Championship but by all accounts would be a raving success in SL. Easy game.

Why Bradford? Do they struggle more than other clubs?

Re: Toulouse : Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:57 pm  

If we are moving towards a system of basing leagues on sporting success then Toulouse have done nothing to deserve a place in SL. If the RFL want to go to 12 clubs then they should either relegate the bottom two at the end of the 2014 season, or relegate the bottom 3 and promote the top team from the Championship. If this is Toulouse, so be it. If it isn't, they can play by the same rules as everybody else and gain promotion to SL by earning it.

Re: Toulouse : Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:09 pm  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

If we are moving towards a system of basing leagues on sporting success then Toulouse have done nothing to deserve a place in SL. If the RFL want to go to 12 clubs then they should either relegate the bottom two at the end of the 2014 season, or relegate the bottom 3 and promote the top team from the Championship. If this is Toulouse, so be it. If it isn't, they can play by the same rules as everybody else and gain promotion to SL by earning it.

Re: Toulouse : Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:36 pm  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

If we are moving towards a system of basing leagues on sporting success then Toulouse have done nothing to deserve a place in SL. If the RFL want to go to 12 clubs then they should either relegate the bottom two at the end of the 2014 season, or relegate the bottom 3 and promote the top team from the Championship. If this is Toulouse, so be it. If it isn't, they can play by the same rules as everybody else and gain promotion to SL by earning it.

These are not the rules we have been playing by since 2005. If they were then Catalans would not be in Super League.

We have a licensing system, which has worked well so far in the case of France.

Re: Toulouse : Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:02 pm  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

If we are moving towards a system of basing leagues on sporting success then Toulouse have done nothing to deserve a place in SL. If the RFL want to go to 12 clubs then they should either relegate the bottom two at the end of the 2014 season, or relegate the bottom 3 and promote the top team from the Championship. If this is Toulouse, so be it. If it isn't, they can play by the same rules as everybody else and gain promotion to SL by earning it.

Why do you think that Toulouse should need to achieve success in a part-time English competition in order to be deemed worthy of Super League inclusion? Do you not think that's a bit backwards and stupid?

Re: Toulouse : Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:13 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

These are not the rules we have been playing by since 2005. If they were then Catalans would not be in Super League.

We have a licensing system, which has worked well so far in the case of France.

But the point that we are moving away from a licensing system from 2014, aren't we? Catalans have been a success but the other French team thrown into SL was an unmitigated disaster.
I'm also not sure there is enough French talent to sustain another SL team.

Re: Toulouse : Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:52 pm  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

But the point that we are moving away from a licensing system from 2014, aren't we? Catalans have been a success but the other French team thrown into SL was an unmitigated disaster.
I'm also not sure there is enough French talent to sustain another SL team.

The other team (Paris) wasn't in the French League heartland, abit like London. It was never going to work.

Re: Toulouse : Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:56 pm  

jeffb wrote:

The other team (Paris) wasn't in the French League heartland, abit like London. It was never going to work.

This

Including Toulouse is simply a question of whether we want the game of RL to prosper or, whether we want to look at self protection along the M62 corridor.
IMO, it looks too good an opportunity to miss.

Re: Toulouse : Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:23 pm  

I'll gladly accept Toulouse, but i think there should be a long term plan put in place that after a said period Catalans and Toulouse, leave the ESL and help the French domestic league.

Re: Toulouse : Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:45 pm  

jeffb wrote:

I'll gladly accept Toulouse, but i think there should be a long term plan put in place that after a said period Catalans and Toulouse, leave the ESL and help the French domestic league.

How?