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| Greenwood charged with grade C.
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| Quote SecondRowSaint="SecondRowSaint"Greenwood charged with grade C.'"
Even tough I started this, I think that it a bit harsh, I would expect him to get a one match ban, there was certainly something in the tackle, just some fans can't see it against their own players, but were quick to jump onto Sneyd last week.
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| Quote The Devil's Advocate="The Devil's Advocate"It’s not garbage when you’re so biased towards your own club, that you will use any allegory to refute the Sneyd incident.'"
Just seen this, I think you find that I thought Sneyd was guilty and deserved a ban (I said 3 matches compared to previous incidents), what I didn't agree with was the 8-10 matches that people were talking about, this is a similar tackle although not as bad and deserves as least looking at, it seems the people that matter agree with me.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Just seen this, I think you find that I thought Sneyd was guilty and deserved a ban (I said 3 matches compared to previous incidents), what I didn't agree with was the 8-10 matches that people were talking about, this is a similar tackle although not as bad and deserves as least looking at, it seems the people that matter agree with me.'"
I'm no Leeds or Saints fan but:
Sneyd should've got longer. There was intent to commit the tackle even IF he'd didn't intend to injure - the recklessness shoudlve warranted at least 4 games more than he got.
Greenwood, at best, should've got a slap on the wrist. There was nothing in it whatsoever.
I think it's common knowledge on here that the disciplinary panel (and the RFL as a whole) are a bunch of moronic c**ks. There should be a complete restructure of the panel, but best to be done at the end of the season.
All in a complete, neutral viewpoint of course.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Even tough I started this, I think that it a bit harsh, I would expect him to get a one match ban, there was certainly something in the tackle, just some fans can't see it against their own players, but were quick to jump onto Sneyd last week.'"
I wouldn't have said that was anything like the same severity or level of potential for injury that the Sneyd challenge had to it. For them to be graded the same is daft IMO. If Greenwood gets the same ban that Sneyd got then the game really has gone mad.
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| They've painted themselves in to a corner by not dealing with a bad incident appropriately. Now they can't plausibly punish Greenwood even if they find him guilty (not that I think they should find him guilty necessarily) because it wasn't even in the same postcode as Sneyd's
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"I wouldn't have said that was anything like the same severity or level of potential for injury that the Sneyd challenge had to it. For them to be graded the same is daft IMO. If Greenwood gets the same ban that Sneyd got then the game really has gone mad.'"
I pretty much agree, he should get a maximum of one match, but I'd be tempted to fine and warn him, but like last week with fans going over the top about Sneyd, the bias is showing in some fans to say he did nothing wrong, it could have been dangerous and Brown clearly thought they was something wrong with it.
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"I'm no Leeds or Saints fan but:
Sneyd should've got longer. There was intent to commit the tackle even IF he'd didn't intend to injure - the recklessness shoudlve warranted at least 4 games more than he got.
Greenwood, at best, should've got a slap on the wrist. There was nothing in it whatsoever.
I think it's common knowledge on here that the disciplinary panel (and the RFL as a whole) are a bunch of moronic c**ks. There should be a complete restructure of the panel, but best to be done at the end of the season.
All in a complete, neutral viewpoint of course.'"
For me, Greenwood being charged was in response to the Sneyd incident last week. If the Sneyd incident hadn't happened, does anybody really think Greenwood would have even been charged?
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| I'm all for protecting players but this is just getting ridiculous if Greenwood is banned.
Common sense must prevail.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Just seen this, I think you find that I thought Sneyd was guilty and deserved a ban (I said 3 matches compared to previous incidents), what I didn't agree with was the 8-10 matches that people were talking about, this is a similar tackle although not as bad and deserves as least looking at, it seems the people that matter agree with me.'"
Your original fore was this.
Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Be interesting to see if a saints no 21 (Greenwood?) gets a ban and there are people calling for a ten game ban for his leg twisting on Brown.'"
Still narked that some hardliners were baying for no absolution  .
But I still think you have your “Black & White” glasses on when comparing the two incidents  .
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."I pretty much agree, he should get a maximum of one match, but I'd be tempted to fine and warn him, but like last week with fans going over the top about Sneyd, the bias is showing in some fans to say he did nothing wrong, it could have been dangerous and Brown clearly thought they was something wrong with it.'"
People aren't bias because they're saying their's nothing wrong with it.....because their was nothing wrong with it.
The only bias seems to be coming from Hull fans highlighting it and trying to make some comparision to poor little Marc who was picked on by everyone on here who rightfully thought his was bad. Just like they tried to shift the spotlight/blame onto McGuire and McDermott last week, they now are trying to shift some onto the RFL if they don't ban Greenwood like they banned poor little Marc even though everyone non-Hull doesn't think their's anything wrong with the tackle.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."I pretty much agree, he should get a maximum of one match, but I'd be tempted to fine and warn him, but like last week with fans going over the top about Sneyd, the bias is showing in some fans to say he did nothing wrong, it could have been dangerous and Brown clearly thought they was something wrong with it.'"
Lol the hypocrisy here is hilarious.
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| Quote The Devil's Advocate="The Devil's Advocate"Your original fore was this.
Still narked that some hardliners were baying for no absolution
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But I still think you have your “Black & White” glasses on when comparing the two incidents
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It was a little bit sarcastic my first post, I never thought he should get 10 games, as I have repeated Sneyd is much worst and deserved a ban, but I was also right in saying that there is something wrong with Greenwoods tackle and should be looked at.
He might get not guilty and I wouldn't be bothered but the RFL have done the right thing in calling him up (Although the grading is maybe a little harsh).
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"People aren't bias because they're saying their's nothing wrong with it.....because their was nothing wrong with it.
The only bias seems to be coming from Hull fans highlighting it and trying to make some comparision to poor little Marc who was picked on by everyone on here who rightfully thought his was bad. Just like they tried to shift the spotlight/blame onto McGuire and McDermott last week, they now are trying to shift some onto the RFL if they don't ban Greenwood like they banned poor little Marc even though everyone non-Hull doesn't think their's anything wrong with the tackle.'"
Hull fans? It's only me, I have never once said that Sneyd was picked on, in fact I thought he got away with it slightly and should have had 3 games.
The non Hull FC, RFL think they is something wrong with it, plus a couple more on here, so it's not just Hull fans.
I also never blamed Mcguire or Mcdermott, in fact I praised Mcguire for his attitude after the event.
It wasn't as bad, but it was an illegal challenge that could have caused damage to Brown (See his reaction) and deserves to be called up.
I think its just as bad that Leeds fans are still upset because Sneyd didn't get his 8-10 game ban.
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"Lol the hypocrisy here is hilarious.'"
What hypocrisy, please explain?
I said Sneyd deserved a ban, around 3 games, I was (Just about) right.
I said Greenwoods tackle needed looking at, I was right.
I can see the challenge isn't as bad.
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| Dave K does seem to be a very unusual occurrence - a reasonable, level headed FC supporter ! 
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."What hypocrisy, please explain?
I said Sneyd deserved a ban, around 3 games, I was (Just about) right.
I said Greenwoods tackle needed looking at, I was right.
I can see the challenge isn't as bad.'"
You claim others are looking at this with a lot of bias.
However, because your player got banned, you want to see another player banned for tackle that LOOKED similar but ACTUALLY it wasn't, far from it.
No club bias from you? 
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"You claim others are looking at this with a lot of bias.
However, because your player got banned, you want to see another player banned for tackle that LOOKED similar but ACTUALLY it wasn't, far from it.
No club bias from you?
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If you say so, lets see what happens tonight, to see if the RFL think it was similar?
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| "lancashire" team gets a "home" semi final shock 
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"You claim others are looking at this with a lot of bias.
However, because your player got banned, you want to see another player banned for tackle that LOOKED similar but ACTUALLY it wasn't, far from it.
No club bias from you?
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Exactly. His issue isn't really with the tackle, it's more that people aren't criticising Greenwood like they did his Hull player. But as has been shown that's because people don't think it's anything like last weeks issue whereas he seemly thinks it because of what club Sneyd plays for.
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| Not guilty, typical Hull bias 
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| So he's not guilty, no ban and Sneyd only got 2 games for his dirtbag "tackle".
Meanwhile Kevin Brown's out for 6 weeks which pretty much puts and end to Widnes' season and Oscar winner Danny McGuire had to miss what, on paper at least, looked to be a very difficult CC game and may miss this weekend's vital SL game.
Nice work RFL.
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| Quote loiner81="loiner81"So he's not guilty, no ban and Sneyd only got 2 games for his dirtbag "tackle".
Meanwhile Kevin Brown's out for 6 weeks which pretty much puts and end to Widnes' season and Oscar winner Danny McGuire had to miss what, on paper at least, looked to be a very difficult CC game and may miss this weekend's vital SL game.
Nice work RFL.'"
It's almost as if Kevin Brown injured his ankle earlier in the game and chose to play on with it...
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| Quote Saint #1="Saint #1"It's almost as if Kevin Brown injured his ankle earlier in the game and chose to play on with it...'"
Dunno, didn't watch it 
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| Quote loiner81="loiner81"So he's not guilty, no ban and Sneyd only got 2 games for his dirtbag "tackle".
Meanwhile Kevin Brown's out for 6 weeks which pretty much puts and end to Widnes' season and Oscar winner Danny McGuire had to miss what, on paper at least, looked to be a very difficult CC game and may miss this weekend's vital SL game.
Nice work RFL.'"
Hang on here, Brown damaged his ankle mid way in the first half so it wouldn,t suprise me if he carried on at risk because Widnes were very much in this game.
I said at the beginning that it was garbage to try and compare it to what has been going on lately. It was a natural momentum tackle with release as per refs instruction, I suppose the RFL do need to have a look at it. But this guilty until proved innocent charge is a lazy action from the disciplinary.
They need to be careful we,ve banned the shoulder charge is an ankle tackle going to be next.
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