Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:07 pm  

I’ve thoroughly enjoyed Williams thread, whether he had an ulterior motive or not.

I hope he has the time & inclination to do it all again next season, but it’s going to be a little trickier the year after, what with the proposed split and all .

Perhaps we could predict the league positions ala the real thing.

I’ll go for.

Percentage increase for league - 1.5%

Top club. Salford – Increase 35% (remember Salford fans, that’s just the top club in terms of attendance )

Bottom club – Wakefield – Decrease 27%. (Unfortunately Wakefield fans, probably correct on both counts )

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:25 pm  

For next year Hull KR should see a small increase with the North Stand open and season tickets being sold for in there. Also bigger potential gate for the derby.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:55 pm  

MOT wrote:

For next year Hull KR should see a small increase with the North Stand open and season tickets being sold for in there. Also bigger potential gate for the derby.

I thought it was just for away fans?

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:10 pm  

BartonFlyer wrote:

It would be interesting, though I suspect impossible to do, to look at an age profile of the spectators.

On a purely subjective impression I believe that the average age of spectators at RL is increasing steadily. My worry, if that is true is that the downward trend that William Eve has identified is therefore inevitable.
To stop the rot and turn things around the game must look at it's attraction for the younger supporter (having a oversize mascot waving doesn't really count) and for families as a whole.

I agree with William's question - "Perhaps the game has to offer such bargains because the SL product isn't anywhere near as good as it's most ardent apostles and missionaries profess it to be?"

I have been advocating for 3 years now that Leigh do a full crowd ' Census ' every year to identify the trends ( including the average age of the clubs supporters ) for attending and to gain every ' customers ' details

Every business that has repeat customers will as a matter of course have all their details, basic business practice, it is criminal if they dont have them

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:10 pm  

Starbug wrote:

I have been advocating for 3 years now that Leigh do a full crowd ' Census ' every year to identify the trends ( including the average age of the clubs supporters ) for attending and to gain every ' customers ' details

Every business that has repeat customers will as a matter of course have all their details, basic business practice, it is criminal if they dont have them

you'd think, wouldn't you.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:55 pm  

The most valuable commodity any business can have is Cash, cold hard currency in the bank

2 nd to that is Assets , especially those that can earn income

3 rd is information, information of your existing customers, and of potential new customers

Few clubs have cash, a few more have assets, all should have information, given the simplicity and cheap cost of communicating with modern methods ,it should be at the top of every clubs priority, probably more so than the big prop and fast winger

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:49 am  

Starbug wrote:

The most valuable commodity any business can have is Cash, cold hard currency in the bank

2 nd to that is Assets , especially those that can earn income

3 rd is information, information of your existing customers, and of potential new customers

Few clubs have cash, a few more have assets, all should have information, given the simplicity and cheap cost of communicating with modern methods ,it should be at the top of every clubs priority, probably more so than the big prop and fast winger

IIRC Harlequins Rugby League had 4 databases of fans in 2007, collated over 10 or so years of SL........and not the slightest loving idea of what to do with them.

Data is one of the most valuable things n organisation can have....but perversely, it is also one of the most expensive and costly things to have if you don't use it!

I'd lay odds that most SL clubs consider a weekly email and Facebook/twitter activity the entirety of their CRM activity

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:23 am  

Story today about the average ticket price across the 4 divisions in English football having dropped by 2.4%......this is after they experienced around a 5% drop in average attendance from the previous year.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:35 am  

ThePrinter wrote: Story today about the average ticket price across the 4 divisions in English football having dropped by 2.4%......this is after they experienced around a 5% drop in average attendance from the previous year. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24052562

ThePrinter wrote: Story today about the average ticket price across the 4 divisions in English football having dropped by 2.4%......this is after they experienced around a 5% drop in average attendance from the previous year. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24052562

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:54 am  

MOT wrote:

For next year Hull KR should see a small increase with the North Stand open and season tickets being sold for in there. Also bigger potential gate for the derby.

I'm going to stick my neck out and say +10% on this year for regular SL matches...