Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:44 pm  

During the current franchised, 14 club, top 8 play-off system SL era... the total attendances in SL in 2013 are the lowest we have ever witnessed. Neither the replacement of the poorly-supported Crusaders with the better-supported Widnes, nor the establishment of 2 new stadia, nor the sundry availability of heavily-discounted SL tickets via cheap Groupon/BOGOF/Buddy offers, nor the latest begging-bowl grab free shirts and discounts on season tickets next year if you pay a tenner to watch Bradford then they might pay the players and tax bills on time and avoid the next winding-up order, nor the best super sizzling summer we've had since 2006 has prevented 2013 SL attendances from being the worst on record.

SL Rounds 1 to 27 total attendances comparison (2009 to 2013)
SL 2013 - 1,619,701 from 182 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures.
SL 2012 - 1,807,643 from same 182 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures.
SL 2011 - 1,689,984 from same 182 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures **
SL 2010 - 1,644,641 from same 182 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures **
SL 2009 - 1,669,948 from same 182 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures **

** except replace Widnes with Crusaders

SL 2013 % decrease in attendances
V SL 2012 = -10.40%
V SL 2011 = -4.16%
V SL 2010 = -1.52%
V SL 2009 = -3.01%

SL 2013 attendance losses
V SL 2012 = -187,942
V SL 2011 = -70,283
V SL 2010 = -24,940
V SL 2009 = -50,247

SL regular season average attendances
SL 2013 = 8,570
SL 2012 = 9,564
SL 2011 = 8,942
SL 2010 = 8,702
SL 2009 = 8,836

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:55 pm  

That's all well and good Billy, but who's won the bet?????

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:57 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

So we can expect this comparison every round from you then? With the accompanying celebrations for increases to match your depression over 'tumbling' attendances of course.

From page 1 of this thread.....well persevered young William....cracking effort

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:10 am  

gutterfax wrote:

That's all well and good Billy, but who's won the bet?????

Which bet? Smokey refused mine... a wise decision

When I get time, I'll have to review some of the bold statements made much earlier in the thread by the usual twitchy suspects to see how accurate their predictions were.

The excellent summer weather this year ended up having very little impact in terms of improved attendances during the months of May, June, July and August. Most weekly rounds during the summer months remained consistently down by around 10% on last season.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:16 am  

gutterfax wrote:

From page 1 of this thread.....well persevered young William....cracking effort

Thanks.

The thread achieved what I expected it to achieve.

It was worth all the season long "shoot-the-messenger" abuse hurled in my direction.

I was never going to be bullied into submission

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:01 am  

Hull KR... 7495... (7786)


I can live with that given the North Stand was out of action all year. Hopefully now away fans have somewhere decent to sit we may see more making the jouney down the M62 next year.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:04 am  

Thanks William for your efforts, made for interesting reading, even tinged with the obvious negativity. Overall no need to top ourselves yet but lets see if the longer term trend of crowd increases returns next year and this was a blip or if there is a more serious problem for SL.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:30 am  

William Eve wrote:

During the current franchised, 14 club, top 8 play-off system SL era... the total attendances in SL in 2013 are the lowest we have ever witnessed. Neither the replacement of the poorly-supported Crusaders with the better-supported Widnes, nor the establishment of 2 new stadia, nor the sundry availability of heavily-discounted SL tickets via cheap Groupon/BOGOF/Buddy offers, nor the latest begging-bowl grab free shirts and discounts on season tickets next year if you pay a tenner to watch Bradford then they might pay the players and tax bills on time and avoid the next winding-up order, nor the best super sizzling summer we've had since 2006 has prevented 2013 SL attendances from being the worst on record.

SL Rounds 1 to 27 total attendances comparison (2009 to 2013)
SL 2013 - 1,619,701 from 182 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures.
SL 2012 - 1,807,643 from same 182 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures.
SL 2011 - 1,689,984 from same 182 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures **
SL 2010 - 1,644,641 from same 182 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures **
SL 2009 - 1,669,948 from same 182 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures **

** except replace Widnes with Crusaders

SL 2013 % decrease in attendances
V SL 2012 = -10.40%
V SL 2011 = -4.16%
V SL 2010 = -1.52%
V SL 2009 = -3.01%

SL 2013 attendance losses
V SL 2012 = -187,942
V SL 2011 = -70,283
V SL 2010 = -24,940
V SL 2009 = -50,247

SL regular season average attendances
SL 2013 = 8,570
SL 2012 = 9,564
SL 2011 = 8,942
SL 2010 = 8,702
SL 2009 = 8,836

so,Aside from last season, which had an unusualy high jump over the five seasons, this season is only 200-350 down a week on the other three? hardly a doomsday scenario and not something that clubs cannot put right in the future as we already know the RFL are addressing the current system, but thanks for the updates,made interesting reading and we will see where we go from here.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:30 am  

Interesting thread. More so for Smokey's meltdowns - absolutely top dollar entertainment.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:34 am  

I believe the thread was started because bill eve was trying to make some kind of point about Nigel Wood making a statement last year that crowds were up, which they clearly were as seen by this thread, bills point was and still is utterly ridiculous, I think he thinks the RFL should put out negative press releases or something. Anyway what we have learned is that apart from last year which as Nigel wood said was a big increase in crowds, this seasons crowds are pretty much on a par with other seasons.