Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:44 am  

the artist wrote:

the problem with saying so and so should not be allowed in because they don't have a pot to tinkle in is that some clubs already in superleague are in a similar poor position financially. in order to exclude clubs who are not going to bring any value, you have to speak from a position of strength in the first place

I agree to an extent. However, simply multiplying the problem isn't really a solution, is it?

Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:08 pm  

davids wrote:

Remarkable statement from someone castigating others for not knowing history.

Lewis Carroll (Warrington)
Warrington bombing and its role in the Northern Ireland peace process
Orwell's The Road to Wigan Pier
The Spinning Jenny (Leigh)
Significant English Civil War battles in Wigan and Leigh
First steam railway (Liverpool - Earlestown, just north of Warrington, where the first fatal rail accident also occured - Manchester)

I could be here all day

As Cokey says IR80 was of course just trolling as usual but a Brilliant reply none the less.....

Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:18 pm  

Donnyman wrote:

As Cokey says IR80 was of course just trolling as usual but a Brilliant reply none the less.....

Why is anyone who disagrees a troll?

open your blinkered parochial mind...

Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:19 pm  

Change the topic to 11 & 12 teams now Hudge has stepped down at HKR.

Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:10 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

Change the topic to 11 & 12 teams now Hudge has stepped down at HKR.

Yes, Hudgell has kindly supplied the answer we have all been waiting for - a 10 team SL. Who would be daft enough to invest new money in a sport that is on its knees, even more than it was before - other than Derek Beaumont?

I suppose the other option is to promote 4 teams from the Championship - Leigh, London, Toulouse and one other.

Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:36 pm  

mapleyther wrote:

Yes, Hudgell has kindly supplied the answer we have all been waiting for - a 10 team SL. Who would be daft enough to invest new money in a sport that is on its knees, even more than it was before - other than Derek Beaumont?

I suppose the other option is to promote 4 teams from the Championship - Leigh, London, Toulouse and one other.

I'll be happy enough if we make it to the end of the season without any casualties among the teams or players.
We are indeed in testing times both in terms of the direct effects of Covid and the consequences of a deep recession.

Get to the end of the season and hope that SL and The Championship can go again next season.
With Toronto being on their booty and massive uncertainty whether the can or indeed should come back into SL, there's a whole load of head scratching and clever thinking needed to ensure that RL makes it through to the other side.

Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:32 pm  

mapleyther wrote:

Who would be daft enough to invest new money in a sport that is on its knees, even more than it was before - other than Derek Beaumont?

.

It's not investment though is it. It's covering the losses with no chance of your money back.

AFAIK Semor Kurdi fancies throwing away a lot of money like Mr. Beaumont.. If I was so successful i had £Millions spare I'd chuck it away on an RL club wouldn't you?

No point dying rich??

Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:44 pm  

the artist wrote:

the problem with saying so and so should not be allowed in because they don't have a pot to tinkle in is that some clubs already in superleague are in a similar poor position financially. in order to exclude clubs who are not going to bring any value, you have to speak from a position of strength in the first place

I agree on the whole but it depends on how you define value. The issue per se isn't the length or population along the M62 corridor. It's long and there's millions of people, most of whom find the game drab because there are clubs who survive in SL who haven't won anything since the 50s, don't produce top class players and have few fans despite being in relatively large towns. They bring no value and contribute to the competition having little in the way of actual competition or excitement.

Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:09 pm  

M@islebugs wrote:

I agree on the whole but it depends on how you define value. The issue per se isn't the length or population along the M62 corridor. It's long and there's millions of people, most of whom find the game drab because there are clubs who survive in SL who haven't won anything since the 50s, don't produce top class players and have few fans despite being in relatively large towns. They bring no value and contribute to the competition having little in the way of actual competition or excitement.

Go on then tell us who these clubs are that aren't worthy of super league status, and then just to cheer us up provide us with the names of the clubs who will be the saviour of it, many thanks in advance.

Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:55 pm  

little wayne69 wrote:

Go on then tell us who these clubs are that aren't worthy of super league status, and then just to cheer us up provide us with the names of the clubs who will be the saviour of it, many thanks in advance.

The fact that you've responded suggests I don't need to. When I think of Saints, Leeds, Wire etc I don't think parochial M62 etc. Hull, Cas have an identity and a rich history of players, cup winning teams. Hull KR are regular strugglers but still have vibrancy and their fans care. I want to watch these teams on TV as they're an 'event'. London are important and I agree with the poster who said they should have stayed where they were building a fan base. York is a big city now and I enjoyed Leigh's all too brief sojourn in SL because of the enthusiasm. I think the above shows there is opportunity for expansion within the country and within the huge numbers of people who find clubs like Wakefield and Huddersfield as monochrome as I do. This Sporting Life. Moribund, a pair of concrete wellies as far as marketing the game.

And of course there's Bradford, whose rise and fall perfectly mirrors that of the fully professional game in this country.