: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:32 pm  

Jonesy wrote:

Where is Gleeson going?
He has one of the worst try scoring records at Test level against the Southern Hemisphere sides ever.
Ordinary could be his middle name and if he could have two name unfit might be the next.

likely to be souths

spoke to him during the world cup and he said he was coming to the nrl next year

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:44 pm  

A lot of Australian players can not cope or handle the Northern England Towns.
Its a culture that is miles away from anything they can relate to.

Its hard for players like Monaghan and King that have been transported to teams where they supposed Stars that have to do it all with average talent around them.
Barrett had enough after one year
St Helens own Lyon said it was average standard and left is Man of Steel trophy behind when he left.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:46 pm  

Jonesy wrote:

A lot of Australian players can not cope or handle the Northern England Towns.
Its a culture that is miles away from anything they can relate to.

Its hard for players like Monaghan and King that have been transported to teams where they supposed Stars that have to do it all with average talent around them.
Barrett had enough after one year
St Helens own Lyon said it was average standard and left is Man of Steel trophy behind when he left.

yes but part of it is also poor coaching as well vs NRL.

imagine matty king going from bellamy to paul cullen

poor kid.

or mongahan from hasler to cullen.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:56 pm  

dally messenger wrote:

yes but part of it is also poor coaching as well vs NRL.

imagine matty king going from bellamy to paul cullen

poor kid.

or mongahan from hasler to cullen.

Poor coaching makes you drop passes? Or miss tackles? Or just look like you're not interested in anything other than banking the cash?

I've heard it all now.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:02 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Poor coaching makes you drop passes? Or miss tackles? Or just look like you're not interested in anything other than banking the cash?

I've heard it all now.

they sure looked interesed in australia.

how do you expect a star player to listen to someone who knows a lot less about RL than them

i mean what could they learn from that coach.

its not as if either had average nrl coaches either, bellamy and hasler are the at the top of their game.

when teams as a whole dont look interested its not the players.

if you havent heard any of this before, turn up your hearing aid

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:05 pm  

dally messenger wrote:

they sure looked interesed in australia.

how do you expect a star player to listen to someone who knows a lot less about RL than them

We manage to listen to you, I'd think if we were getting paid to do so we might actually take some notice.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:11 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

We manage to listen to you, I'd think if we were getting paid to do so we might actually take some notice.

the 2nd part of that sentence contradicts the first.

so not only is your hearing poor, it looks like senility is setting in grandad.

have a cup of tea and a good lie down, and think back to the good ole days of winter rugby

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:21 pm  

I'm not having that quality players just 'aren't interested'.
Matt King is not a quality player. He can't step, he's NO pace and he struggles to brush off sean Long on a half break.
I can however see in a quality team how he'd get 15 or 16 run ins when left one on one 5 or 10 yards out.
As a centre, he isn't half as good as Glees or Gidley in SL.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:24 pm  

dally messenger wrote:

the 2nd part of that sentence contradicts the first.

so not only is your hearing poor, it looks like senility is setting in grandad.

have a cup of tea and a good lie down, and think back to the good ole days of winter rugby

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hello pot, im kettle, your (pure) black....

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:15 pm  

roughyedspud wrote:

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hello pot, im kettle, your (pure) black....

I liked that bit in brackets