Re: Best loose forward : Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:59 pm  

I've never really understood the misconception that Sinfield wasn't the most skillful. Sure, he didn't have much pace, but his passing, offloading and kicking games were at the elite level. He also had the brain and vision to utilise his skills.
In terms of who was the best LF, considering Sinfield and Sculthorpe played most of their best rugby at stand off, I'm not sure it's the right question to ask. I'm also pretty sure both of them would be playing in the halves if they come through now. Of the 3 Farrell would be the one most likely to have been a back rower, so I'd say he'd get my vote.

Re: Best loose forward : Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:57 am  

Top Saint wrote:

Neither. Sculthorpe was better than both.

Paul Scunthorpe did not win the golden boot award, like Kevin Sinfield and Andy Farrell did

Re: Best loose forward : Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:05 pm  

Ziggy Stardust wrote:

O'Loughlin at his peak was better than both and unlike those two he always showed up at International level!!

Wheres the continuous laff button.

Re: Best loose forward : Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:07 pm  

Lebron James wrote:

Don’t agree. Farell always stood up against the Aussies. As for sinfield, they just pat him on the head

Regards

King James

Did he bollox most overrated player of all time,the only all time team list he would make is the 13 and captain of the all time flat-track bully team. The Aussies never rated him at any point ever.

[Wanderer]

Re: Best loose forward : Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:01 pm  

It's still Hanley (whatever people may think about his personality).

Re: Best loose forward : Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:32 pm  

It’s an interesting question because I can see and agree with people saying Farrell and Scunthorpe as better players but at the same time if you could go back in time and were offered either of them or Sinfield aged 16 to have a 20 year career at your club would you opt for them over Sinfield?

Re: Best loose forward : Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:57 pm  

It all depends upon the time frame: 20 years? 30 years? 50 years?

20 years: 1. Paul Sculthorpe, 2. Kevin Sinfield.
30 years: 1. Ellery Hanley, 2. Paul Sculthorpe, 3. Kevin Sinfield
50 years: 1. Ellery Hanley, 2. Malcolm Reilly, 3. Paul Sculthorpe, 4. Kevin Sinfield.

Andy Farrell was a star at the club level but never shone in international games. Therefore he could never be considered great, let alone the best.

Re: Best loose forward : Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:22 am  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

It all depends upon the time frame: 20 years? 30 years? 50 years?

20 years: 1. Paul Sculthorpe, 2. Kevin Sinfield.
30 years: 1. Ellery Hanley, 2. Paul Sculthorpe, 3. Kevin Sinfield
50 years: 1. Ellery Hanley, 2. Malcolm Reilly, 3. Paul Sculthorpe, 4. Kevin Sinfield.

Andy Farrell was a star at the club level but never shone in international games. Therefore he could never be considered great, let alone the best.

Farrell over Sinfield.

My top 3 over the 7 decades I have watched the English game. Mal Reilly, Ellery Hanley and Vince Karalius.

Re: Best loose forward : Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:44 am  

Ellery Hanley

Re: Best loose forward : Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:47 am  

Wanderer wrote:

It's still Hanley (whatever people may think about his personality).

Ellery may be the best player, but not the best Lf. Sculthorpe probably a better more skillful all round player, and had the size. Sinfield up there with the skill of Sculthorpe but a better leader game manager. Ellery was no game manager and had ltd all round passing kicking game.
Ellery was without doubt the most dangerous runner the game has ever seen. But he was never a classic loose forward. They played him there as it gave him the free reign/role rather than restricted at centre and never had the skill for a 6