Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:33 pm  

William Eve wrote:

Spreadsheets take no time at all once they've been set up. It's typing out the results on here which is far more time consuming.

Yes, I do have time to attend RL matches and I attend at least one a week. I don't attend Super League matches however and haven't done so since it was extended to 14 teams and a top 8 play-off system which dramatically lowered the intensity across all teams and rendered the regular seasons meaningless.

I'll also be attending a lot of the RLWC matches, in particular those involving the lesser-fancied sides where the fixtures will be populated by real fans of the game. Fiji V Ireland at Rochdale is top of my list. I attended the Semi Final Qualifier between the same two sides at the RLWC in 2008 in Robina. I'll be giving the England games as big a swerve as possible. Plastic team and plastic brand supported in the main by plastic SL fans.

So, whilst you've no interest in Super League, you are prepared to spend time attempting to highlight the alleged downturn in attendances. The question I ask is Why? If you're not interested why do you bother. Stick with your Championship buddies, they must be thrilled to have you on board.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:26 pm  

Hessle Roader wrote:

So, whilst you've no interest in Super League, you are prepared to spend time attempting to highlight the alleged downturn in attendances. The question I ask is Why?

Because I'm a RL supporter who remains concerned about the future of the game lacking in sponsorship and finance, and which continues to be administered by morons at the RFL with the full support of all SL club CEO's. It's not their game to destroy from within.

Higher SL attendances and TV viewing figures were the only remaining performance indicators dutifully and relentlessly trotted out to the media in order to justify their existence, their agenda, their licensing system, their salary cap structure and their alleged expertise in running the game. That's all they had left to fall back on, because by every other measure the game itself is failing and continues to do so at an alarming rate.

Given the conspicuous absence this season of reported comparative SL attendances and the sudden lack of interest in the subject matter by the RFL and it's compliant RL media, I thought I'd fill that gap instead

Hessle Roader wrote:

If you're not interested why do you bother. Stick with your Championship buddies, they must be thrilled to have you on board.

Your latest super-irritated response is noted but did I say I attended Championship games instead? Why would I be interested in a competition reduced to a sham and populated in the main by clubs in dual-registered subservience to SL clubs who dumped their reserve grades?

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:00 pm  

Round 27 LATEST... Wigan V Leeds in 2013 = 14,982 Wigan V Leeds in 2012 = 15,370 % decrease = -2.52% Hull V St Helens in 2013 = 11,250 Hull V St Helens in 2012 = 11,727 % decrease = -4.07% Salford V Widnes in 2013 = 3,775 Salford V Widnes in 2012 = 5,196 % decrease = -27.35% Catalan V Warrington in 2013 = 8,590 Catalan V Warrington in 2012 = 11,526 % decrease = -25.47% Bradford V Huddersfield in 2013 = 8,348 <----- GROUPON CHEAP TICKET ALERT ----- Bradford V Huddersfield in 2012 = 11,182 % decrease = -25.34%

Round 27 LATEST... Wigan V Leeds in 2013 = 14,982 Wigan V Leeds in 2012 = 15,370 % decrease = -2.52% Hull V St Helens in 2013 = 11,250 Hull V St Helens in 2012 = 11,727 % decrease = -4.07% Salford V Widnes in 2013 = 3,775 Salford V Widnes in 2012 = 5,196 % decrease = -27.35% Catalan V Warrington in 2013 = 8,590 Catalan V Warrington in 2012 = 11,526 % decrease = -25.47% Bradford V Huddersfield in 2013 = 8,348 <----- GROUPON CHEAP TICKET ALERT ----- Bradford V Huddersfield in 2012 = 11,182 % decrease = -25.34%

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:42 pm  

so....who's won the bet Billy?
What are the final attendance stats for the regular season?

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:17 pm  

SL Round 27 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year

Wigan V Leeds in 2013 = 14,982
Wigan V Leeds in 2012 = 15,370
% decrease = -2.52%

Hull V St Helens in 2013 = 11,250
Hull V St Helens in 2012 = 11,727
% decrease = -4.07%

Salford V Widnes in 2013 = 3,775
Salford V Widnes in 2012 = 5,196
% decrease = -27.35%

Catalan V Warrington in 2013 = 8,590
Catalan V Warrington in 2012 = 11,526
% decrease = -25.47%

Bradford V Huddersfield in 2013 = 8,348
Bradford V Huddersfield in 2012 = 11,182
% decrease = -25.34%

Hull KR V London in 2013 = 7,749
Hull KR V London in 2012 = 6,713
% increase = +15.43%

Wakefield V Castleford in 2013 = 6,404
Wakefield V Castleford in 2012 = 9,786
% decrease = -34.56%

Total Attendance in SL Round 27= 61,098 (Avg: 8,728)
Total Attendance same fixtures last year = 71,500 (Avg: 10,214)
% decrease = -14.55%

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1 out of 7 fixtures in Round 27 have shown an increase in attendance compared to the same SL fixtures last year. 6 out of 7 fixtures in Round 27 have shown a decrease in attendance compared to the same SL fixtures last year.

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Out of 182 fixtures played throughout the regular season in 2013 (not including magic weekend fixtures), 49 out of 182 have shown an increase in attendance compared to the corresponding SL fixtures last year. 133 out of 182 fixtures have shown a decrease in attendance compared to the corresponding SL fixtures last year.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:22 pm  

Regular Season SL Attendances by Round in 2013

Round 1 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 64,387 (Avg: 9,198)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 63,376 (Avg: 9,054)
% increase = +1.59%

Round 2 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 69,809 (Avg: 9,973)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,989 (Avg: 10,284)
% decrease = -3.03%

Round 3 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 58,711 (Avg: 8,387)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,246 (Avg: 10,178)
% decrease = -17.59%

Round 4 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 58,948 (Avg: 8,421)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 68,803 (Avg: 9,829)
% decrease = -14.32%

Round 5 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 50,207 (Avg: 7,172)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 57,593 (Avg: 8,228)
% decrease = -12.82%

Round 6 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 67,079 (Avg: 9,583)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,439 (Avg: 10,206)
% decrease = -6.10%

Round 7 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 57,048 (Avg: 8,150)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 69,941 (Avg: 9,992)
% decrease = -18.43%

Round 8 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 52,247 (Avg: 7,464)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 69,575 (Avg: 9,939)
% decrease = -24.91%

Round 9 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 80,429 (Avg: 11,490)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 81,841 (Avg: 11,692)
% decrease = -1.73%

Round 10 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 57,882 (Avg: 8,269)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,601 (Avg: 10,229)
% decrease = -19.16%

Round 11 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 55,117 (Avg: 7,874)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 62,013 (Avg: 8,859)
% decrease = -11.12%

Round 12 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 53,477 (Avg: 7,640)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 63,337 (Avg: 9,048)
% decrease = -15.57%

Round 13 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 49,525 (Avg: 7,075)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 59,648 (Avg: 8,521)
% decrease = -16.97%

Round 14 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 68,617 (Avg: 9,802)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 80,737 (Avg: 11,534)
% decrease = -15.01%

Round 15 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 53,274 (Avg: 7,611)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 57,921 (Avg: 8,274)
% decrease = -8.02%

Round 16 MAGIC WEEKEND Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 62,042 (Avg: 8,863)
Total attendance at same event in 2012 = 63,716 (Avg: 9,102)
% decrease = -2.63%

Round 17 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 48,752 (Avg: 6,965)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 54,966 (Avg: 7,852)
% decrease = -11.31%

Round 18 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 55,384 (Avg: 7,912)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 56,180 (Avg: 8,026)
% decrease = -1.42%

Round 19 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 62,239 (Avg: 8,891)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 60,958 (Avg: 8,708)
% increase = +2.10%

Round 20 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 55,617 (Avg: 7,945)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 62,218 (Avg: 8,888)
% decrease = -10.61%

Round 21 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 64,512 (Avg: 9,216)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,206 (Avg: 10,172)
% decrease = -9.40%

Round 22 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 63,146 (Avg: 9,021)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,188 (Avg: 10,170)
% decrease = -11.30%

Round 23 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 53,062 (Avg: 7,580)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 59,266 (Avg: 8,467)
% decrease = -10.47%

Round 24 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 63,910 (Avg: 9,130)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,807 (Avg: 10,258)
% decrease = -11.00%

Round 25 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 62,039 (Avg: 8,863)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 69,919 (Avg: 9,988)
% decrease = -11.27%

Round 26 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 71,143 (Avg: 10,163)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 73,659 (Avg: 10,523)
% decrease = -3.42%

Round 27 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 61,098 (Avg: 8,728)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,500 (Avg: 10,214)
% decrease = -14.55%

Rounds 1 to 27 Fixtures (189 in total)
Total attendance for 182 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures in 2013 = 1,619,701 (Avg: 8,570)
Total attendance for same 182 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures in 2012 = 1,807,643 (Avg: 9,564)
Cumulative attendance loss = 187,942
% decrease = -10.40%

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:31 pm  

Club... Games... 2013... 2012... %gain/loss
Leeds... 13... 197556... 194320... +1.67%
Widnes... 13... 78191... 77700... +0.63%
Hull... 13... 151843... 154511... -1.73%
Wakefield... 13... 103635... 106237... -2.45%
Hull KR... 13... 97430... 101212... -3.74%
Castleford... 13... 81979... 86225... -4.92%
Warrington... 13... 138232... 148873... -7.15%
Wigan... 13... 189084... 208555... -9.34%
Catalan... 13... 108719... 122009... -10.89%
Huddersfield... 13... 82790... 100223... -17.40%
St Helens... 13... 147483... 183132... -19.46%
London... 13... 28775... 36503... -21.17%
Bradford... 13... 111320... 152888... -27.19%
Salford... 13... 40622... 71539... -43.22%

SUBTOTAL... 182... 1557659... 1743927... -10.68%

Magic Weekend... 7... 62042... 63716... -2.63%

TOTAL... 189... 1619701... 1807643... -10.40%

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:32 pm  

It's only 10%

It'll be reet.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:32 pm  

so who's won the bet?????

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:35 pm  

Current Average Attendances V Same Fixtures Last Year
Club... SL:2013... (SL:2012)
Leeds... 15197... (14948)
Wigan... 14545... (16043)
Hull... 11680... (11885)
St Helens... 11345... (14087)
Warrington... 10633... (11452)
Bradford... 8563... (11761)
Catalan... 8363... (9385)
Wakefield... 7972... (8172)
Hull KR... 7495... (7786)
Huddersfield... 6368... (7709)
Castleford... 6306... (6633)
Widnes... 6015... (5977)
Salford... 3125... (5503)
London... 2213... (2808)

Average... 8570... (9564)