Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:43 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

That’s the figure for all league games under the RFL umbrella. A total of 550 games over that season over 3 divisions. That would result in an average of 2545.

This is compared to 1.4m people going to watch 175 SL games.

Source of your 1993 figures?

Comparing SL attendances with the past and incorporating attendances from all lower division fixtures at places like Nottingham, Blackpool Gladiators, Carlisle, Chorley Borough and Runcorn Highfield in order to arrive at an average attendance figure, and to then compare it unfavourably to current Super League attendances just about sums you up along with your desperate agenda

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:47 pm  

William Eve wrote:

Smokey resorts to insults when he's losing the plot.

No surprises there

I do enjoy your hypocrisy.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:51 pm  

William Eve wrote:

Source of your 1993 figures?

Comparing SL attendances with the past and incorporating attendances from all lower division fixtures at places like Nottingham, Blackpool Gladiators, Carlisle, Chorley Borough and Runcorn Highfield in order to arrive at an average attendance figure, and to then compare it unfavourably to current Super League attendances just about sums you up along with your desperate agenda

The source is the LIRC.

The figure includes those attendances. Only a spreadsheet attention whore pushing their agenda would want us to pretend that it didn’t. All so they didn’t have to admit that the game now, is far better attended than it was.

If it bothers you so much, you could find the cumulative attendances for the Championship and Championship 1. That would give us a much better comparison wouldn’t it? The entire league attendances for all leagues?

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:58 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

I do enjoy your hypocrisy.

I do enjoy your continuous failed agenda rantings.

Pssst! Your hero Richard Lewis has thankfully buggered off and walked away from the licensed, sponsor-less shitheap that he's landed the sport in... that's his failed legacy, so you are now free to just let it all go as well if you like?

"The modern game's attitude towards it's history has been quite regrettable in the Super League era and this is something that has perhaps impacted upon it's commercial performance and media exposure. Super League barely recognises the greats of yesteryear, whereas the NRL actively markets it's game, especially State of Origin, around it's past... Sadly, the principal marketing strategy of Super League and summer rugby appears to have been... 'The game used to be crap, now it's great'... Richard de la Riviere (Rugby League - A Critical History 1980-2013).

EVIDENCE?

"Rugby League used to be a winter sport until we moved it to summer. That transformed it from a game of muddy players on boggy pitches to the fast, spectacular, skilful game we see today" - Richard Lewis in 2010.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:09 pm  

Evidence so p1sspoor you had to repeat it twice. great work

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:12 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

The source is the LIRC.

What's that?

SmokeyTA wrote:

Only a spreadsheet attention whore

You just can't help yourself, can you?

SmokeyTA wrote:

All so they didn’t have to admit that the game now, is far better attended than it is now.

Internationals? Challenge Cup? How do attendances compare in those from around 20 years ago when "next to nobody attended" according to you? And what about all the other cup competitions? Lancs/Yorks Cup? Regal? Premiership Trophy? What were those attendances like? Are they included in your attendance figures?

SmokeyTA wrote:

If it bothers you so much, you could find the cumulative attendances for the Championship and Championship 1.

I prefer to establish as close as is possible a like-for-like comparison with regard to attendance figures. Clearly, you prefer to fudge the figures by comparing all attendances in all divisions during the alleged murky, boggy, muddy, pot-bellied, pit-villaged, black & white, cobbled street past with just the super modern Super League attendances in order to suit your failed ideological agenda.

No surprises there.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:23 pm  

William Eve wrote:

What's that?

The LIRC is a joint research Centre of Sheffield Hallam University and the University of Sheffield

You can't help yourself, can you?

I can quite easily. But as I told you, I enjoy your hypocrisy.

Internationals? Challenge Cup? How do attendances compare in those from around 20 years ago when "next to nobody attended" according to you? And what about all the other cup competitions? Lancs/Yorks Cup? Regal? Premiership Trophy? What were those attendances like? Are they included in your attendance figures?

Are internationals, Challenge cup games, Lancs cup, Yorks Cup, or the Regal trophy league games?

I prefer to establish as close as is possible a like-for-like comparison with regard to attendance figures. Clearly, you prefer to fudge the figures by comparing all attendances in all divisions during the alleged murky, boggy, muddy, pot-bellied, pit-villaged, black & white, cobbled street past with just the super modern Super League attendances in order to suit your failed agenda.

No surprises there.

There is no more like for like comparison for the league than x amount of people went and watched a game in 1993, and x amount of people went and watched a game in 2013. It isn’t me who is trying to throw in more variables in the vain hope they would help my agenda. Its you.

I didn’t include competitions which don’t exist, or tours which aren’t scheduled this year. Do you want a like for like comparison? We can compare the amount of people who attended an international game in 1993 and the amount who will attend this year if you want?

More people attended the last CC final than the one in 1993, and im sure more will attend this years aswell.

I know it hurts and upsets you, but it really isn’t my fault that more people attend RL now than did 20 years ago. I know how you wish it weren’t true, and how you have built this persona around how right you believed you were, and I know you are going to have to go to all that effort of thinking up another hilarious play on words as your name, but all that hurt and frustration deep inside doesn’t alter the facts.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:47 pm  

Worlds most boring thread 2013

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:53 pm  

Where's the Grim Reaper this week then? Crowds didn't go up did they?

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:13 am  

Wildmoose wrote:

Where's the Grim Reaper this week then? Crowds didn't go up did they?

He might be on the BRADFORD, LONDON or WAKEFIELD boards waiting to collect

Bradford down or about 3,000, St Helens were down 1,000 whilst Wigan were 5,300 down = 9,300
Widnes were up about 400, Castleford up 1,000, Hudds up 2,200, Leeds up 2,400 =6,000

Last REGULAR home game of the season for Widnes, Castleford, Leeds and Huddersfield which would explain the rises, whilst Bradford aren't celebrating a new owner and the fans of St Helens, Wire, Hull and Wigan may be saving up for Play-off expenditure which isn't covered in their ST's.

Next week
Wigan Leeds = both cemented in the top 4 already. Winner goes to Wire, loser goes to Hudds.(15,370)
Hull St's = winner hosts HKR, loser hosts/visits Catalan (11,727)
Salford Widnes = dead rubber (5,196)
Catalan Wire = Catalan playing for home advantage (11,500)
Bradford Hudds = dead rubber/local derby(11,182)
KR London = KR Cemented in 8th...nothing to play for. (6,713)
Wakey Castleford dead rubber/local derby (7,050)