Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:29 pm  

Two SL clubs have now completed their home fixtures this season.

WARRINGTON
Total attendance in 2013 = 138,232 (Average: 10,633)
Total Attendance in 2012 = 148,873 (Average: 11,452)
Down by 7.15%

LONDON
Total attendance in 2013 = 28,775 (Average: 2,213)
Total Attendance in 2012 = 36,503 (Average: 2,808)
Down by 21.17%

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:37 pm  

declaration wrote:

A negative decrease is actually an increase.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:54 pm  

Conorgiantsfan wrote:

Just out of interest, what the Top 14 average attendance? Aviva Premiership?

Super 15 = 20,242 (NZ 14,853/Au 17,494/SA 28,380)
NRL = 15,694
Heineken =13,458
Top 14 =13,150
Aviva = 12,480
Superleague = 9,097
Pro 12 = 8,199
Amlin Cup = 5,307

Other than the Japanese Top league and Microsoft Cup, neither of which publish attendances I can find, that's pretty much it for professional Rugby around the world.

Union seem to be able to put on Event games which inflate their averages and the NRL seems to be catching on with Double headers in Brisbane and the Warriors at Eden Park and Wellington boosting their average by close to 30%.

I agree with some posters on these boards who have suggested an OTR round, where 7 games are taken to new areas and the clubs combined with the RFL market the hell out of them.....It's 1 home game every 2 seasons lost, with the RFL covering losses (if there are any).

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:04 pm  

SL Round 25 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year

Warrington V Widnes in 2013 = 10,392
Warrington V Widnes in 2012 = 12,042
% decrease = -13.70%

Hull V Salford in 2013 = 11,180
Hull V Salford in 2012 = 10,776
% increase = +3.75%

Leeds V Hull KR in 2013 = 14.868
Leeds V Hull KR in 2012 = 15,343
% decrease = -3.10%

London V Huddersfield in 2013 = 2,013
London V Huddersfield in 2012 = 1,970
% increase = +2.18%

Catalan V Wigan in 2013 = 8,968
Catalan V Wigan in 2012 = 13,858
% decrease = -35.29%

Castleford V Bradford in 2013 = 6,633
Castleford V Bradford in 2012 = 8,054
% decrease = -17.64%

Wakefield V St Helens in 2013 = 7,985
Wakefield V St Helens in 2012 = 7,876
% increase = +1.38%

Total Attendance in SL Round 25 = 62,039 (Avg: 8,863)
Total Attendance same fixtures last year = 69,919 (Avg: 9,988)
% decrease = -11.27%

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3 out of 7 fixtures in Round 25 have shown an increase in attendance compared to the same SL fixtures last year. 4 out of 7 fixtures in Round 24 have shown a decrease in attendance compared to the same SL fixtures last year.

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Out of 168 fixtures played thus far in 2013 (not including magic weekend fixtures), 44 out of 168 have shown an increase in attendance compared to the corresponding SL fixtures last year. 124 out of 168 fixtures have shown a decrease in attendance compared to the corresponding SL fixtures last year.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:08 pm  

Round 1 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 64,387 (Avg: 9,198)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 63,376 (Avg: 9,054)
% increase = +1.59%

Round 2 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 69,809 (Avg: 9,973)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,989 (Avg: 10,284)
% decrease = -3.03%

Round 3 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 58,711 (Avg: 8,387)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,246 (Avg: 10,178)
% decrease = -17.59%

Round 4 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 58,948 (Avg: 8,421)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 68,803 (Avg: 9,829)
% decrease = -14.32%

Round 5 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 50,207 (Avg: 7,172)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 57,593 (Avg: 8,228)
% decrease = -12.82%

Round 6 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 67,079 (Avg: 9,583)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,439 (Avg: 10,206)
% decrease = -6.10%

Round 7 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 57,048 (Avg: 8,150)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 69,941 (Avg: 9,992)
% decrease = -18.43%

Round 8 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 52,247 (Avg: 7,464)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 69,575 (Avg: 9,939)
% decrease = -24.91%

Round 9 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 80,429 (Avg: 11,490)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 81,841 (Avg: 11,692)
% decrease = -1.73%

Round 10 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 57,882 (Avg: 8,269)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,601 (Avg: 10,229)
% decrease = -19.16%

Round 11 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 55,117 (Avg: 7,874)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 62,013 (Avg: 8,859)
% decrease = -11.12%

Round 12 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 53,477 (Avg: 7,640)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 63,337 (Avg: 9,048)
% decrease = -15.57%

Round 13 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 49,525 (Avg: 7,075)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 59,648 (Avg: 8,521)
% decrease = -16.97%

Round 14 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 68,617 (Avg: 9,802)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 80,737 (Avg: 11,534)
% decrease = -15.01%

Round 15 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 53,274 (Avg: 7,611)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 57,921 (Avg: 8,274)
% decrease = -8.02%

Round 16 MAGIC WEEKEND Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 62,042 (Avg: 8,863)
Total attendance at same event in 2012 = 63,716 (Avg: 9,102)
% decrease = -2.63%

Round 17 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 48,752 (Avg: 6,965)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 54,966 (Avg: 7,852)
% decrease = -11.31%

Round 18 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 55,384 (Avg: 7,912)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 56,180 (Avg: 8,026)
% decrease = -1.42%

Round 19 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 62,239 (Avg: 8,891)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 60,958 (Avg: 8,708)
% increase = +2.10%

Round 20 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 55,617 (Avg: 7,945)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 62,218 (Avg: 8,888)
% decrease = -10.61%

Round 21 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 64,512 (Avg: 9,216)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,206 (Avg: 10,172)
% decrease = -9.40%

Round 22 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 63,146 (Avg: 9,021)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,188 (Avg: 10,170)
% decrease = -11.30%

Round 23 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 53,062 (Avg: 7,580)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 59,266 (Avg: 8,467)
% decrease = -10.47%

Round 24 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 63,910 (Avg: 9,130)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,807 (Avg: 10,258)
% decrease = -11.00%

Round 25 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 = 62,039 (Avg: 8,863)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 69,919 (Avg: 9,988)
% decrease = -11.27%

Rounds 1 to 25 Fixtures (175 in total)
Total attendance for 168 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures in 2013 = 1,487,460 (Avg: 8,500)
Total attendance for same 168 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures in 2012 = 1,662,484 (Avg: 9,500)
Cumulative attendance loss = 175,024
% decrease = -10.53%

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:20 pm  

Club... Games... 2013... 2012... %gain/loss
Wakefield... 12... 97231... 96451... +0.81%
Leeds... 12... 181980... 181038... +0.52%
Widnes... 12... 72478... 72375... +0.14%
Hull... 12... 140593... 142784... -1.53%
Hull KR... 12... 89681... 94499... -5.10%
Warrington... 13... 138232... 148873... -7.15%
Castleford... 12... 75162... 81348... -7.60%
Wigan... 11... 161685... 175449... -7.85%
Catalan... 12... 100129... 110483... -9.37%
St Helens... 12... 132768... 167404... -20.69%
Huddersfield... 12... 74033... 93644... -20.94%
London... 13... 28775... 36503... -21.17%
Bradford... 11... 95824... 131574... -27.17%
Salford... 12... 36847... 66343... -44.46%

SUBTOTAL... 168... 1425418... 1598768... -10.84%

Magic Weekend... 7... 62042... 63716... -2.63%

TOTAL... 175... 1487460... 1662484... -10.53%

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:23 pm  

Current Average Attendances V Same Fixtures Last Year
Club... SL:2013... (SL:2012)
Leeds... 15165... (15087)
Wigan... 14699... (15950)
Hull... 11716... (11899)
St Helens... 11064... (13950)
Warrington... 10633... (11452)
Bradford... 8711... (11961)
Catalan... 8384... (9207)
Wakefield... 8103... (8038)
Hull KR... 7473... (7875)
Castleford... 6264... (6779)
Huddersfield... 6169... (7804)
Widnes... 6040... (6031)
Salford... 3071... (5529)
London... 2213... (2808)

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:26 pm  

During the current franchised, 14 club, top 8 play-off system SL era... the total attendances in SL to date remain the lowest we have ever witnessed. Neither the replacement of the poorly-supported Crusaders with the better-supported Widnes, nor the establishment of 2 new stadia, nor the re-establishment of heavily-discounted SL tickets via cheap Groupon/BOGOF/Buddy offers has prevented 2013 SL attendances from being the worst on record so far.

SL Rounds 1 to 25 total attendances comparison (2009 to 2013)
SL 2013 - 1,487,460 from 168 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures.
SL 2012 - 1,662,484 from same 168 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures.
SL 2011 - 1,552,429 from same 168 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures **
SL 2010 - 1,507,011 from same 168 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures **
SL 2009 - 1,520,746 from same 168 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures **

SL 2013 % decrease in attendances
V SL 2012 = -10.53%
V SL 2011 = -4.18%
V SL 2010 = -1.30%
V SL 2009 = -2.19%

SL attendances losses
V SL 2012 = -175,024
V SL 2011 = -64,969
V SL 2010 = -19,551
V SL 2009 = -33,286

** except replace Widnes with Crusaders

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:45 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Super 15 = 20,242 (NZ 14,853/Au 17,494/SA 28,380)
NRL = 15,694
Heineken =13,458
Top 14 =13,150
Aviva = 12,480
Superleague = 9,097
Pro 12 = 8,199
Amlin Cup = 5,307

Other than the Japanese Top league and Microsoft Cup, neither of which publish attendances I can find, that's pretty much it for professional Rugby around the world.

Union seem to be able to put on Event games which inflate their averages and the NRL seems to be catching on with Double headers in Brisbane and the Warriors at Eden Park and Wellington boosting their average by close to 30%.

I agree with some posters on these boards who have suggested an OTR round, where 7 games are taken to new areas and the clubs combined with the RFL market the hell out of them.....It's 1 home game every 2 seasons lost, with the RFL covering losses (if there are any).

Wasn't there a series of games played in London football grounds in the mid-50's that were very successful. Shown on ITV?

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:05 pm  

Conorgiantsfan wrote:

Wasn't there a series of games played in London football grounds in the mid-50's that were very successful. Shown on ITV?

yep.........then again, in those days, the attendances at all sporting events were massive.....nowadays the public have a lot more to choose from when it comes to spending on entertainment.

London Broncos will cease to exist in SL from 2015 onwards due to the clubs inability to market itself and the RFL's reluctance to back the expansion with cold hard cash and support of the level received by Melbourne Storm from the NRL.
Knowing the track record of the RFL, they will point to the failure of London as proof that the game as a professional sport is better confined to the M62 Corridor and they will retreat accordingly. The upshot will be that whilst the amateur game will continue to thrive in the London region, any decent talent will probably be snapped up by the Rah's.

When London drop out of the tier, they could well be the tip of the iceberg.....other clubs have wobbled of late, such as Bradford and Wakey, and if Salfords new owner is relying on fans to flock to games, he's in for a shock too. The game is not in good health at the moment. London could just as easily fold this year, but the RFL can't afford the media coverage that would deliver.